mjoy64

Appreciate the ideas Lee. I'll be familiarizing myself with the parts diagram this weekend and searching YouTube. Jason... I'll be hitting you up!

After several years on the M&P platform I decided to give CZ a go. I wasn't unhappy, just ready to try something different. Found out that the Shadow's are hard to come by so I started searching. I was pleased to come across a Shadow that sourced from CZ Custom. Trigger felt pretty darn nice when I looked it over, So... on closer inspection and after a couple of matches... I've noticed that something appears out of whack. As I depress the trigger for the DA pull, I can see the safety on the right side push out. After taking it down and watching the action, I can see the trigger bow move toward that side and it appears it pushes the right side safety out. After shooting about 600-700 rounds w/o cleaning I started to notice a visible drag on the trigger reset (unloaded in DA at home)... a lot. Looking for ideas on the right way to address the issue. I'm new to the platform so I'm not versed (yet) on taking it down to its smallest parts. No, I'm not going to sell it to you! Love the gun and digging CZ.

I shoot at the club I *think* your talking about. No way is NRA membership required there to shoot the USPSA match. Sounds like you ended up at range membership. Too bad... Arthur and his crew put on a really good match!

Auto-forwarding is not a faster way to reload from slide lock. I used to reload almost exclusively with the auto-forward. I started having problems with the no strip click outcome so I asked a well known M&P gunsmith if there was some way to fix this problem. He said he knew how to fix it but I wouldn't like the answer. He told me to quit seating the mags so hard so the gun would not auto-forward and use the slide stop. The real eye opener was the assertion that auto-forwarding was actually slower. Your support hand violently stops and then must reinitiate the motion up into the support position as opposed to the fluid smooth motion of a reload that is only firm enough to seat the mag. I know plenty of y'all will think this is BS but no one believes more than a convert. My reloads are smoother and faster and I'm also avoiding two possible negative outcomes... a) Not stripping a round and Losing time as I sit there looking at my gun out of battery because in this 1% case my brain so expected my gun to be in battery and it wasnt

1.15 with MG 124 gr CMJs on 4.1gr Titegroup

Don't see why the trigger kit would move a gun to ESP. Should be GTG for SSP if that is your bag.

"releasing the slide from the right side tab using my right thumb while seating a magazine is not 100% reliable" How so? Do you perceive that somehow it is worse from the left hand side than the right hand? You're definitely correct that an over the top release is slower. As far as slam charging your mags (per some of the other suggestions)... it just isn't a good idea. It's slower, you come to depend on it then end up looking silly with a gun out of battery when it doesn't drop, and sooner or later you'll probably have issues with slam charging not stripping a round and getting "click" when you pull the trigger. While I have heard of the occasional slide stop breakage, this is the first I've heard of a reliability issue with releasing the slide with the the slide stop.

Sooo, all of the folks who are using the adjustable rear with a .265" tall front are just making it up? Okay. No of course not. I was just extremely surprised that there were that many people that were running/suggesting that configuration. Perhaps there is some load combination or variances in production that result in .265 working. My personal experience is that I bought the .265 tall sight and at 25 yards everything grouped 4 - 6 inches high. I replaced with the .305 and all was well. After more careful reading on Dawson's web site I saw the .265s were intended for the fixed rears. It's all good and as always everyone should go with what works for them!

Wow... I'm almost in disbelief at the responses. I guess I'll just go ahead and add... IMO for the rest of this response. If you have the Dawson adjustables on your M&P Pro you need the .305 tall front sight. Period, end of story. Who cares what it looks like.

At this point... shoot whatcha got! Right now you are the major limiting factor and not the firearm. With more practice and experience... you'll know where/if you want to transition to. Don't let the crowd dictate your choice. Shoot what you are comfortable with and experiment outside the boundaries as time/finances permit. Welcome!

Understandable... If you've shot Glocks for a long time you probably have misshapen Quasi-Moto hands at this point. Once you're hands have reached this point a Glock is always the best choice!

Erik, I did send a second one up behind the squib. Unfortunately there was enough powder to get the bullet into the barrel, but not exit. The target I was shooting was almost at point shooting distance so I didn't have enough time to perceive the squib before I pulled the trigger the second time. Both bullets exited the barrel on the second shot (2 good hits on the target... lol). No injury and the gun held up remarkably well as only the barrel was damaged.

I did get the gun hard chromed. The trigger is an STI aluminum trigger. The work was not inexpensive because replacing and fitting a barrel... well it costs! I had him replace *some* of my trigger parts with new Cylinder and Slide trigger parts, trigger job, new barrel, fitted and contoured my EB ambi safety, new slide stop, and hard chrome for about 900.

I had a pretty nice STI Trojan in 40 S&W that I had a squib mishap with which resulted in a bulged/split barrel. I dropped it off at STI and had David Cupp fix it and tart it up a bit while he had it. I like.

You'll find enough anecdotal evidence to justify a decision either way. Both are reasonable choices for this class of gun. For most it comes down to what they shoot best. Those that have switched most often will cite that the M&P fits their hand better, points better, etc. The best advice I could give would be to try it out and if you like it... go for it. You'll be able to find vocal proponents and detractors for both. I run the M&P Pro with Burwell's standard trigger job with Dawson adjustable sights on it. I love it. My only issue with my M&P's has been the occasional slam charge that didn't strip a round. Dan Burwell convinced me to quit seating my mags so hard (causing this behavior) and the issue went away. YMMV... try it and see for yourself. Everyone is different. As an aside... I have no problems finding after-market parts and accessories. I think this angle tends to get waaaaay overblown. Mike