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Check the new rules addendum. I think that they specifically disallow them.

My way, and there are many, is to perform the stage in your head until you can't get it wrong. I start out slow a couple of times...look where I want the bullet to go, move my eyes to the next target, look where I want the bullet to go etc. I build in my reloads and footwork next. Then I speed it up to medium speed. Mentally the same...look where I want the bullet to go.....make sure that you step here etc. Eventually I mentally work up to "full speed". Then as others have said above, at the beep let it all go and let your unconscious mind take your body for a ride. It is a pretty cool feeling when you shoot a "programmed" stage. Nothing like it, for me it seems all slow motion.

I have a friend that makes a IDPA legal magwells for glocks. Passed muster at the 2009 Nationals. PM me for the info.

It is time again for the: 2010 Missouri State IDPA Match. Held at Benchrest Rifle Club in St. Louis, MO May 15-16, 2010 12 stages, 203 rounds (pending final approval) For information please go to: My link Charles

Please allow me to tell you a funny story. I am the match director for our local IDPA club and I was shooting a COF. One of my "friends" was the SO. Sure enough I am shooting along and got to that target hiding behind a barrel. On shot 1 and called a -3, shot 2 a -0 and shot 3 a -0. Only 2 shots were required. I performed my unplanned slide lock reload and continue on with the stage. On to the scoring we go....turns out that my -3 call was a -0 hit. At that time my "friend" tells me that he is going to have to give me a FTDR for round dumping. I looked at him like he just explained quantam physics with 3 words, cock my head a bit, and tell him that I just had a conversation with the Match Director and that his decision has been overturned. Somewhat irrelevant, but the story still makes us laugh. Have a good day.

I shot this stage. It was fun......until you figure out the guy in front of you is shooting some smoky lead loads. All in all fun.

I just stumbled across this. It is a good read. Neat to see others have to work hard to get good results as well. Good job this weekend! See you next month. CP

I am the MD of our club. I run local monthly and yearly sanctioned events. We get our scores up 2hrs to 3 days after the match. Mostly it depends on how we feel when we get home. My wife is the official scorekeep/webmaster and she does a great job. It sounds like everybody that has posted is helpers, and that is a great thing! I am not whining when I say this, but trust me when I have to design the stages, print scoresheets, set up the match, do sign-ins, run for every little thing (like paint, pasters), then tear down and put away the entire match I don't much feel much like calculating scores when I get home. In fact if I have little help I get downright grumpy and hold scores. One of the things that we do is: If you are there when the shed door closes you can come by my house and drink all the beer you want. We drink beverages until the scores are done. Therefore the helpers get their scores fast. Fortunately, our club has a great group of shooters that see all of the work involved and want to help. To all of the new shooters that are checking out this topic. Get out and Help. Your work is most appreciated.

Thanks for the info. I will play with the springs a bit. How do I know when I get the springs too light? Does the gun quit chambering the next round or simply quit running?

I have begun to feel comfortable with the gun. I am getting used to the whole wiggle thing, seems like the thing to do is shoot right as the harmonic begins to slow down. I am noticing a couple of things: Gun: I am getting a small amount of powder residue on the slide and frame. Not much but a little. Is this normal? I clean the mags that I use during the COF before the next run. I just pull the base plate and let everything fall into a plastic bag. Brush with a Arrendo brush and reassemble. Is this overboard? Since the new springs and followers and enacting this cleaning methodology I have experienced zero malfunction issues. Cleaning the gun really isn't that bad, although I have moved to cleaning every time I shoot from the once per thousand plan with the glocks. At this time I think that I am still faster with the glocks. The main trouble that I am having is finding the dot on the draw and moving into a new position. I know that a bunch of dryfire will help. I will have more time over the winter. I have resolved myself to shooting basically nothing but my open gun over the winter in practice etc. Of course I will probably shoot my actual carry gun for IDPA. Anybody tried to Tac Load a LCP, it isn't that fun. (note for the IDPA rules guys....I will shoot the LCP for no score or in a BUG gun class) Thanks in advance.

I tested out the new springs and followers with one mag full of each. So far so good, runs like a top. Much more testing over the winter to make sure that all is well. Something that I noticed yesterday is my dot tracking. It goes straight up and down. Dot never leaves the lens, but it takes quite a bit of time to get it settled back down and ready for the next shot. It like some sort of weird up and down harmonic thing. I tried loosening/tightening my grip to solve the problem with no luck. To all of the open guru's here on the forum, is this normal? Thanks in advance.

I installed the grams followers and springs into the magazines. They are a lot stiffer than what I took out. I would think they would work. I will be on the road for a few days this week. I look forward to finding if they are the solution to the jam or not. Come on Thursday rangeday...we gots to know.

Mr. Sheep, congrats on the match. A win is a win once it is on paper. Keep it up.

Oh man, that sucks. Just know, it'll happen eventually. No biggie, shot the classifier 18 sec faster the next go around.

I thought it might be fun to post about what it takes for a long time glock shooter to get into the 2011 world. I intend these posts to be both technical and about personal development so mods please feel free to move this discussion to whatever is the appropriate place. I do not want this to turn into a "way to go and glad you finally got a real gun" discussion but rather a place where a person that was in my shoes can to to learn what it takes to make the same move. I came across a used SVI based open gun in 38 super for what I felt like a good price. I wanted to try a 2011 so I bought it. If I end up liking the gun I will convert to 9mm major over the winter. The specs as I know them are: SVI 2011 frame I think a caspian slide, 5" Aftec extractor Schumann barrel with 3 holes Unknown comp with 4 up and 4 side ports DP sight mount Cmore 1 SVI 170 mm with DP basepads and neon purple followers 5 SVI 140 mm with DP basepads and arrendo purple followers 1 STI short stick Some sort of slide racker. Old style ghost holster Safariland 771 mag carriers Safariland Belt Load data (use at your own risk) mixed 38 super brass 8.2 gr Ramshot Silhoutte 124 gr MGHP OAL 1.246 Fed SP primers Makes 168-9 pf. Some things that I have noticed about the equipment so far. Of course I discovered these during my first match with the gun. Gotta love working out of town. 1. The Safariland belt is old floppy, I have a new CR speed on the way 2. You have to actually tighten the adjustment screws on the mag carriers before you run or all of your mags will fall out, never a problem with my glock CR Speeds. This did not actually hurt me on the stage but it was a real good thing to learn early in the day. 3. I had two misfeeds during my first match. Upon inspection I found that the followers were not staying connected with the mag springs. Hopeful solution: Order grams springs and followers for the 170 and 2 140's. Also ordered 1 Bolen spring and follower for the big stick to see if I get an extra round and good reliability. 4. The gun is incredibly fast. I won my first stage out with the gun. Talk about a confidence booster. 5. I took off the slide racker. It gets in the way of my thumb on safety disengagement. Some things that I noticed about my self. 1. After some pretty extensive dryfire practice my index as it pertains to finding the dot came about surprisingly easy. Now finding the front sight on my glock is surprisingly hard. It is always pointing in the air, go figure. 2. Dryfiring the safety disengagement to the point it is automatic is a must. 3. Reloads were easy to get used to. I thought that I might have a hard time finding the mag release but no problem. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. If you see something that I am doing wrong please speak up. This forum is all about learning from each other. Edited because I forgot something.

Not to one up ya but I missed a class bump in the classifier by .01. Crappy deal, I wanted the bump.

I am a little late on this topic, but we use the glass cleaner wipes from wally world and Rain X anti-fog from Auto Zone. That is a little trick I picked up from racing harescrambles on a motorbike in the Missouri Heat. +1 on the hat.

Gun Specs: Caspian G34 Slide Briley Barrel with 3 popple holes Briley Comp Vanek Trigger Lightend Steel Striker Doctor Sight Bevenized and Milled into slide Homegrown Magwell which is all SS to meet IDPA rules. I use the same frame/trigger group for IDPA ESP. In theory the slide assembly was built by a reputable gunsmith. Runs like a champ for him. Runs like a turd for me. Ammo Specs: As I recall anyway, Hotels suck. 9MM Major loads 7.6 gr Silhouette 1.150 OAL (cant go longer with the glock mags) Fed SP Primers MG 124 HP Bullets Produces 169-170 PF in gun Mostly once fired Win brass Lee dies all around Dillon 650 including FCD. Mags: Taylor Freelance +11 mags extension Arrendo +6 mag extensions Stock branny new mags. Ok so now all of that is out of the way I can get onto the possessed part. The gun likes heavy springs. The current spring setup is a 17 lb recoil spring, stock trigger return spring and stock striker springs. All testing began with a 15 lb recoil spring as that is what the gun likes to fully return to battery, light striker spring and stock trigger return spring. All that I read on this wonderful site says the open guys are running as low as 11 lb recoil springs and hardly ever over 15 lb. Forget about the gun going into battery with a 13 lb spring. The methodology I used was simple function firing at an indoor range in my temporary hometown. Here is a list of happenings and how I remedied them. 1. Bullet wont feed into chamber from taylor freelance magazine. The cartridge gets pinched by slide when the bullet is about halfway up the feedramp. The particular round did'nt seem to matter. Arrendo extensions are good. Stock mags are good. I thought that either the slide speed was too fast or the magazine feed was too slow so I installed a 17lb recoil spring and a 33 round magazine spring into the taylor freelance magazine. All seems to be good. I lose a round of capacity but I would rather have a dependable 27 than a iffy 28. 2. Getting light strikes. Worse with 15 lb recoil spring so I figured the gun was'nt going fully into battery. Switched to stock striker spring and 17 lb recoil spring. All is good. 3. Occasionally a empty round gets left in the chamber. I originally thought that maybe the slide was not traveling far enough to hit the ejector, but with the other problems I just changed to the only new extractor I had in my parts kit. A .40 non-LCI. I also changed the extractor spring. I function fired 50 or so rounds with no problems after re-springing. FYI I had a real hard time making major with this gun. I think that the popple holes bleed WAY too much energy. I have tried HS-6, VV 350, Longshot, IMR something or the other. I would have to load .3 to .5 gr more than what seemed like the average everybody else was loading. The silhouette seems to make major easily for whatever reason. Little or no overpressure signs. While I am working up loads the 160 pf loads seem to be the limit as to when things start to get weird as far as the malfunctions go. The silhouette seems to work the best. So I guess the question is am I just trying to fix the symptoms of a problem I don't know about such as barrel lockup etc. or do I just simply have a possessed gun? Are the popple holes bleeding too much energy and making me have to pound the gun to make major? I like the feel of the 15 lb springs and of course lighter trigger, but I will choose reliability anyday. I am about out of hypothesis to try. Any help is appreciated.

Update on the update, update......or something like that. I have decided to retire the CCF"s. Those thing nearly cost me a couple of matches. It is not very fun standing on the line and your last thought before the beep is "man I hope this gun runs". It was cool while it lasted, but every dog has its day. Good luck to all.

I loaded some minor ammo on top of major stuff in a magazine on accident one time. Shot the stage with the fastest time of the day. The peanut gallery was like "your gun got really, really loud" so I checked the mags and sure enough there sat the major rounds. The gun is a G34, stock barrel everything is fine. Something I do for damage control, provided you actually unload your mags, is load MG 121 IFP for major and MG 124 HP for minor. Minor in green cases, major in blue cases. In theory I have a system of visual redundency.

"Another possibility - did you use different lots of powder? There could well be that much variation among different lots of the same powder." That could be, just opened up the next 8 lb keg. All of the other TG kegs that I have used seem to be fine. This one is probably different.

ESP=MA SSP=EX (have'nt really shot it in matches for 1-1.5 yrs or so) CDP=UN REVO=UN I also think that the way to the top is by winning matches. For what it is worth I have never shot a master class classifier in a match, been within 1 second many times, but I seem to do plenty good at the sanctioned matches. A25476 Charles Parisi

Update on the Update: Gun ran flawlessly at the last 2 matches. Pretty sad that it takes a piece of a ballpoint pen to make a $400.00 frame run.

Thanks for the replies guys. Sorry I just realized that I was giving PF in the IDPA dialect. I will probably try to bump it up a bit and see what happens. I will have to sneak this one past the wife (avid shooter also). She does'nt like recoil much.

Hey guys, Backstory: Yesterday I was switching primers for my 9mm minor loads. I switched from Winchester SP to Fed SP because that is what I have on hand. I chrono after every change to make sure that I am still good. I have always loaded to about 130 pf and the load has always produced it in many G34's. When I chronoed the Fed primers I came up with about 129,000 pf. We are about to head to a major match so I checked the Win primer stuff i was planning on using and came up with 125,650 pf. I bumped the charge .1 gr reload 600 bullets for the match and all is well again. Load: 3.8 (now 3.9) gr Tightgroup 124 gr MGHP Mixed Brass Win or Fed Primer 1.15 COL Loaded in 68 degree basement Chrono'd on a sunny 80 degree day at 550 ele. Question: The load has always made 130 pf in my gun. I have not changed a thing with the crimp, OAL, powder etc. but all of a sudden I lose 4,000 pf. Any ideas? My thoughts are maybe I got a crappy keg of powder (although I chrono'd the new jug) and there could be some variance there. Maybe my gun barrel is getting worn, if bullet count were miles it would be time to trade er in (probably 100K). Maybe Tightgroup slows down a bit when it is warm? Anyway I am not freaking out about it, more curious than anything. I figured the more expierienced reloaders out there might have a idea whats going on. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.