[Bushwhacker 125 rn]

Revchuck, I'm loading 9mm Luger. Flex, I don't see in my manual where it says anything on this specific bullet. I know that there are bullets that have the same weight, even cast bullets and diameters that match mine but what about the base? As I have yet to recieve these bullets I was wanting to get a leg up on the issue. When I say base, I mean that some are flat and others are not. Wouldn't that have an effect on pressure? Just was hoping that someone else had some experience with these same bullets. I do check my manual(Hodgdon) and their website as that is what powder I presently use, and I do start low and work my loads to where I like them. I just have no experience with this particular bullet. Thanks Jimmy

[Bushwhacker 125 rn]

Never loaded lead bullets before. I use a Square Deal and currently bought Bushwhacker 125gr. RNs. Was wondering if any of you had tried them, and if so what were you running? I have alot of Titegroup so I was hoping to use it up. I'm looking for info on OAL and such for this bullet. I bought them from Powder Valley, and checked the Hodgdon web sight, but I didn't see a load for this particular bullet.

[Steel Challenge Subforum Location?]

I was hoping we could move it up one level and have it in the "Shooting Sports" section, but not as a sub-forum to the USPSA Shooting forum. That would make it what I think of as a "front page" forum.

Thats it =thats what I wanted to say but lacked the brain cell activity

++1

[Ain't nature great?]

A guy named Vince that worked a job with me '99-2000 was a Falconer. He took me out hunting after work one day. I flushed some ducks out of an irrigation pond and his bird took the trailing drake right out of the air. Vince gave me the play-by-play the whole time. It was the most amazing thing I'd seen as far as birds of prey are concerned. Turns out Vince was a convicted felon early in his life but couldn't get hunting out of his system. Found another system is what he did. He let me keep the duck too!

[What to do in Maui or KUai in May]

When my wife wakes up I will get her to give me the name of the tour book we had last year in Kuai. We've been there twice. There is'nt much nightlife on the Island, but it is sure our favorite as it is the slow paceed island. I was stationed at Schofeild Barracks in '88-'90. After visiting many of the islands I found Oahu, and Maui to be the more partying and nightlife friendly, while Molokai, Kona, and Kuai were more the take it easy islands. If you like to be treated politely and are polite yourself, Kuai is nicer as the locals treat you kindly if you are patient and again polite. Anyway, that book was the ticket as it showed you all the best beaches, told you of the local dangers, and even showed you where to get cheaper food. Jimmy

[My 08 production gun..maybe.]

I can't understand why a single action CZ-75 is not allowed in production class. CZ makes a single action pistol. Isn't that production? It is a stock pistol. The first CZ that I ever shot was single action. Irv Stone( the Sto in BarSto ) let me shoot his in a match at 29 Palms gun club in '85. Why can't you shoot a stock SA in production class?

[Photographing and Videotaping at Matches wrongly]

That is what brought me back. I got sober four years ago, and the thing that kept coming back to me when I was bored was how much fun I had shooting IPSC with my old man in Junior High and High School. Not saying that is why I quit drinking, but beleive me, it is what I think about during my busy day, and late at nights. ( Which is now when I do my reloading)

[Browning Hi-Power Trigger Job]

Cylinder and Slide has drop in kits for brownings and berretas. It may get you want you want with the mag disconect deactivated.

https://shop.cylinder-slide.com/ccp51/cgi-b...atstr=HOME:6:20

FWIW On the last Browning HP I had taking out the mag safety did not help the trigger one bit.

The guy my pop had do my HiPower did the drop in thing on mine. I think its around 4 lbs. I take out the magazine safety so that I can drop the hammer when I clear at the end of a stage. Otherwise, if you drop your mag, your clear and show empty, then you cannot drop the hammer unless you put in another mag. I do not find that much difference though on the trigger pull with it in. My .02

[stupid accidents around the house]

voodoo.

You know I am a reverend

Then say a prayer for my thumb

[Lost my Dad tonight]

I'm so sorry, Craig. I'm glad you were able to mend fences and have good times together.

Just what I would say. My prayers are with you, may he rest in peace. God bless.

[The Amatuer]

Thought I'd seen that title before. It's here in our bookcase. Will have to give it a read.

[My 6" JPL Thread]

Sometime in January I will be handing over some parts to John Larson (JPL Precision) to build a 6" limited gun. There's a couple different styles I really like, but I settled on Brazos style holes. I am taking my backup STI with a black grip, cutting the frame short, and putting a new top end on it.

The first pic is of a gun John built. It belonged to a fellow RO at this year's Area 1 match and I had a chance to shoot it. Very nice indeed. The second pic is my photoshopped version of that gun with a few tweaks. I added a fifth hole on the side, cut out the recoil plug tunnel, extended the panel cut and removed one rear serration. The third pic is from the JPL website showing a slot milled into the top that I may go with instead of the multiple holes shown on the first pic.

Let me know what you guys think. Good design? Do you think it will be too light with a long slot cut into the top? Also, I was planning on having it finished as the 5" gun is shown (clear duracoat). I really like the IonBond, but not for $300. What about just bluing it? I'm not sure if I want it black or not. Any advice on a finish?

The velvet crush is a musical reference. Bonus points to anyone that knows where it's from.

Thanks for looking.

splashdown

Brian Copeland, K.P. Devlin, or the band Velvet Crush? Oh, and the blaster pics are cool too!

[USPSA purchases Steel Challenge]

Everyone involved with USPSA's administration of the Steel Challenge should be locked in a room and forced to review the entire history of the match, both to understand why the people that go every year keep coming back and to understand why the changes Kerby introduced nearly killed it in the 90's. What failed was recognizing class winners, falling steel, and moving the location from Piru. Everyone involved should be required to shoot the match in 2008 as a competitor so they get to see it as it was before making any changes. Go back and study why Bianchi Cup has withered under NRA and why the SC came back from a coma to be as strong as it ever was.

Moving the match is like moving the Kentucky Derby or the Indy 500 or Camp Perry or Bisley. The place is part of the history and character and personality of the event.

The rules and the format and all the rest of it are part of the whole package.

Here's the sales pitch I give people about steel shooting in general:

1) Fewer skills to learn. Draw, shoot.

2) Scoring. Easy to understand and getting "one to throw away' is attractive to new shooters.

3) Stages are known in advance so you can practice them. How to practice is much more clear and obvious with steel stages compared to IPSC.

4) Because stage scores are well known you can easily gauge your ability level vs. the top shooters. USPSA makes the high hit factors secret which achieves nothing in my opinion.

5) Magazine capacity doesn't really matter. You don't even need mag pouches to compete - just a holster.

6) .22 friendly - great for beginners and kids

7) Matches are much faster to set up and tear down.

8) Don't have to go downrange and reset for every run.

9) Shooting steel will make you a more accurate shooter and improve your draw and target acquisition which will raise your IPSC and IDPA scores.

10) Fun, fun, fun.

Why the Steel Challenge in Piru is my favorite match and the best run match held every year

1) The match staff. It's not just the two Mikes that have made the match what it is. A lot of the staff has been working the match for years (decades?). The match is NOT "just for the pros".

2) If you show up and don't get DQed, you will get your match fee back in prizes even you are dead last. Most of the time the shooter's bag alone has $100 worth of stuff in it so even if you DQ you get goodies.

3) Side matches where you get to try new guns w/ random drawings where guns are given away

4) Scheduling. Half day on, half day off if you shoot one gun gives you time to enjoy the California sun and even drive to the beach.

5) Multiple entries. I had a ball shooting Limited _and_ Open this year.

6) Puts semiauto, DA wheelgun and cowboy sixgun shooters head to head. The data from Steel Challenge is a great source of knowledge about how optics vs iron sights and race holsters vs carry holster (IDPA class) affects performance, because you can actually look at data where top shooters very close in skill compete in the different categories or have double entries.

7) .22 pre-match

8) practice range

9) continuity in courses of fire make it possible to track your improvement year to year. It's much harder to do that in IPSC. Too many variables.

10) Location. Facilities, weather, staff, the 100+ shooters that have shot the match for years that keep coming back and keep it alive. More than anything I think changing the location hurt attendance in the 90's. Don't run off the "customers" you have now thinking that others will replace them. That idea failed once already.

Things USPSA could do to really totally screw it up:

1) Require people to earn "slots" to get into the match

2) Run off all the staff that are part of the character and personality of the match by requiring that all match ROs be USPSA certified and be managed by a USPSA RM unfamiliar with how things were done in the past.

3) Move it to Barry

4) Change the scoring so that no overall winner is declared and it's all separated by division.

5) Spin off so many Area and regional events that all start asking industry for prizes that the 'big match' suffers (I'm all for more steel matches but the scale of the match is part of its appeal and industry sponsorship is often a zero-sum game)

6) Put a USPSA person that has never shot the match, isn't a steel shooter already, or is similarly out of touch in charge of it.

7) Eliminate recognition of the IDPA and SASS categories because they aren't USPSA divisions

8) Eliminate double entries because they aren't allowed in USPSA matches

9) Change the scoring

10) Decide that each year's match needs "brand new stages" so it's more like IPSC

The least risky path is to make as few changes as possible and just try to maintain it as it is now.

It isn't broke so please don't fix it.

Karl

Karl, I think you've hit it square! +1

[OCPL/ Rainbow Matches]

From the early 70's until the 90's there was a series of matches hosted by Bill and Dorothy Hahn out of Oceanside CA. This was my introduction into the shooting sports and I am wondering if there were any others on this forum who were privledged enough to have had the chance to compete in these matches? They were held in Oceanside proper until the big rains of '76 and '78 made the range at Oceanside a problem as I beleive the range was in a river basin below the flood area. In '78 they moved the match to Rainbow CA between Temecula and Fallbrook. At that range ( known as Duncan's Range after a man by that name who was kind enough to let us shoot there) you might be luchky to see Armand Swenson testing weapons at a small range adjacent to Duncans. He was ac eclectic old guy who would even let you fire some of his projects. ( MAC-10s, Thompsons, lots of other cool stuff) I quit going to the matches in 91 and was interested in finding out whatever happened to them, as I've noticed that the range is now closed. I met alot of great people out there, many of whom helped me out and taught me lots about shooting and patience, and losing gracefully. Thanks Jimmy

[Just saying hello...]

Welcome from the Deserts of California.

[How Do you Class This Pistol]

Come out and shoot the stock 9mm BHP in L10. Get a few matches under your belt, see what others actualy shoot, ask lot of questions and then decide what you want to buy next.

Wdeload, I think that I'll shoot both. I may have to pay twice, but I'll get to shoot twice. I don't know if they'll let me do that, we'll have to see.

[Draw and Reloading Practice]

Once again, thank you all. This is why I come here. Good advice. I will get a par timer for the draws, and just practice the reloads without a timer. I never thought that I would actually like to practice draws and reloads, but it is alot of fun. Strangely I find myself thinking about doing it everytime the kids go to bed and I can get out there and do it. I hope this doesn't put a damper on the married life Again, thanks, Jimmy

[Draw and Reloading Practice]

Was practicing draw and reloads tonight and could feel things getting smoother and quicker as time went by. I was thinking though how one would time onesself? I do this alone in my garage and use a small dog bed to catch my mags. Great fun, can feel progress, but want to quantify this progress. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jimmy

[How Do you Class This Pistol]

I have a HiPower with a 6" barrel, ambi safety, Millet sights, Pachmyer grips. The barrel has comp cuts. I use 13rd magazines. I like the long barrel because it shoots a little flatter and it may sound crazy. but it just points great that way. I was wondering if it was now considered an open gun and if so then maybe I wouild get a magwell from EGW and a dot on top. Another guy at our range shoots a dot on his HiPower and says he loves it. Also, how do you go about getting a hard copy of the current USPSA rule book? Thanks, Jimmy

If the gun has a comp, it is in the open division. You can add pretty much anything to it. You want to get a hard copy of the USPSA rule book? Join USPSA and they will send you one!

Later,

Chuck

Chuck, thank you for the clarification, and tonight I joined USPSA as a result of your advice. To the others who answered as well thank you. I love my Brownings and now own three. I do not plan on changing so don't bother even suggesting it. I may go to 40. but I will be shooting a HiPower when I do! I have a stock gun, and one that doesn't have an extended barrel. It's just that my long barrel shoots so well! But then I always thought that I ran faster with new shoes when I was a kid

[How Do you Class This Pistol]

I have a HiPower with a 6" barrel, ambi safety, Millet sights, Pachmyer grips. The barrel has comp cuts. I use 13rd magazines. I like the long barrel because it shoots a little flatter and it may sound crazy. but it just points great that way. I was wondering if it was now considered an open gun and if so then maybe I wouild get a magwell from EGW and a dot on top. Another guy at our range shoots a dot on his HiPower and says he loves it. Also, how do you go about getting a hard copy of the current USPSA rule book? Thanks, Jimmy

[Another newbie]

From one noob to another, I have found loads of info here. I have even found other places to shoot near me. ( still looking) Jimmy

[4 position]

Indoor 4 position rifle starts tonight YAAAAA, unfortunately there is about 3" of snow on the ground and I have to drive about 80 miles roundtrip on slick roads ,but I'm always up to do something dumb.

Scott

Scott, what is four position rifle? Standing, Kneeling.Sitting, Prone? What are the distances? Is there a sanctioning body involved so tht I may find this type of match closer to home?

[Which one?]

Japenese or Thai? I cant even answer that. Hot, definitely hot. Onion rings or French Fries?

[1967 vs. 2007]

Graduated H.S. in Indio CA in '87. When in middle school we shot rabbits and dove in the vast tracts of vacant desert that are now golf courses. Sherrifs deputies would tell us the best places! We were POACHING! In High School there were several designated smoking areas where you could bum a smoke from a teacher or they from you! I even gave my English teacher Skoal Bandits for his birthday, and he was a hunting buddy of my friends. Yeah, things have changed, but quickly too because I'm only 38 and by the time I was 25 those days were over.

[Which one?]

garlic mashed potato's

Steak with A1 or bbq sauce

Hmmm. Steak with kosher salt, Seared Ahi, or Sashimi? Yeah, I used to think it was gross too, until I tried some!