Tindjin

Glad you enjoyed it Steve. We tried to make it fun and challenging while trying to get used to the new rules.

Our MD went around using a 9mm with loads that were just under the needed chrono numbers and hit each of the steel targets at or below the bottom of the "good hit" or round sections to do it. Worked really well, no calibration calls during the match at all.

Us SOs were told at the NM state shoot this weekend to use the "basketball" rule. Actually saw very few issues with it on my stage. Our MD said the regional director expected there to be a clarification on the reloading rule to be out soon. As an SO it is a bit annoying, I would rather be watching the reload to make sure it's safe and no finger violation than checking for foot movement during it.

Under current (new) rules you can only shoot while moving if you start the stage "in the open" and fire while moving to your first point of cover. At no other point in the stage can you move and shoot at the same time. We had one stage that was written under the old rules and had to be modified because of this change and that came from our regional director. I'm hoping the rule for shooting and reloading on the move changes, it does change the flow of a lot of types of stages. The wording, "when cover is available" at the beginning of the rule is causing a ton of confusion. The only way other than beginning in the open is if you had some type of target that revealed itself while you were moving, like a drop turn or pop-up so that way it wasn't behind cover. It's this kind of thing that is causing a bunch of frustration with shooters that didn't need to happen with the new rules.

Odd title, I know. We just finished the New Mexico State comp and were the 2nd or third large competition that used the new rules. I was a primary SO for one of our stages that actually had in a couple functions of the new rules. * No shooting on the move * No reloading on the move * Extended Range cover * Some angles during movement/shooting where the 180 rule could come into play. Over all we are getting really good feedback from the match so far. Feedback on some of the rules, once you have to shoot them when they are being enforced is something else though. People are really not liking the no shooting or reloading on the move. Extended range cover is confusing people (and makes cover calls a real pain in the ass). We had only 2 DQs I believe, one for "finger" violation, twice on same scenario and one for a 180 break. Don't mean for this to be a discussion on the rules themselves (been done to death) but if anyone has any questions on how things were implemented or how, as an SO, we had to deal with them please speak up.

Thanks for the great information guys. I think I'm going to pick one up and see how it goes with getting the weight under the limit. Muchas Gracias!

Anyone use one for IDPA? How do you like it? Reliable? I am thinking of getting one but will need to buy it sight unseen as I can't find one local to put my hands on. I would use it for IDPA and USPSA. I could go the normal Glock route but just don't like the grip angle no matter how much I try out my friends ones. Thanks.

For those more rule knowledgeable. I've been shooting IDPA for about 1.5 years in CDP but went to my club's shoot on Sunday with my USP to do something different. It is a varient 1 (DA/SA with saftey and decocker). I can safe it with the hammer in the cocked position but the SO said I had to decock it if it has a decocker. Is this true? If so I may change it to a varient 9 which has the saftey but no decocker. I did send this question into IDPA HQ for official word but wondering what those here thought.

Cleats I think would be fine as long as you are wearing a full football or soccer uniform. Otherwise it's just a rule like said in this and other FTDR type threads. The purpose of IDPA is to use "real world/everyday" type gear. Sure you see someone walking down the street in cleats once in a while but it isn't "the norm" and hence not allowed. Same type of thinking as not allowing "race gun" type holsters. Sure you could conceal one wearing a jacket but since the number of people who might do it are way below 1% of those CCW'ing it likewise isn't allowed. Rules are part of the game, don't like them then choose another game to play. To the comment about a $20 pair of cleats V. $100 pair of hikers, well you can get $20 pair of hikers also. Just saying..

Honestly who cares about USPSA in an IDPA thread? Every sport out there has it's odd, frustrating or just plain stupid (in the eyes of some) rules. If you don't like it then play something else, it is really that simple. People are latching onto the "what's in the shooter's head" argument. In the case listed the target is under 10 yards, the people shooting (with only a few exeptions) have shot at the nationals or at least a few major competitions. Vickers states that the round count is not limited to allow someone to better their score at the penalty of taking that extra shot. If they are pumping two into the -0 and the holes are not touching then pumping a third it is pretty obvious with a needed reload coming up. Sure the person can have a large case of nerves but still it's not like any of those people had round counts below 1k. Some calls have to be at the SO/MD discretion and as long as they make the ATTEMPT to keep it fair then that is all we can ask. As to the "what's in their head" argument and someone asking for any other sports that have it, take a look at just about EVERY sport. Football, Soccer, Baseball, they all have areas that are "gray" and you have to put your faith into the officials. It is funny to me that everyone is so concerned about this one case at the nationals but don't mention the THOUSANDS of other calls that were made the rest of the time. Mike (or whoever it was sorry if name is wrong) didn't call it because he was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, but when the entire team was progressing with the same tactic he called over another official and got their advice. Some have said that the entire team or no one should have gotten it, well that sounds like watching the film tape from Sunday's football games and turning over a referee's decision. It is unfortunate the the one shooter got the penalty (my opinion is that RDing should be a procedural unless multiple infractions occur) but they still went against the rulebook. A Cop sees 3 people speeding and is only able to pull one over, sucks to be the person who gets pulled over but they were still breaking the law. p.s. Sincere thanks to all the officials and other volunteers that spend the time getting Nationals to be possible. Hope to be there next year!

Truely mis-informed about IDPA. Oh calm down, that was the funniest thing I've read all day!