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Check out the Ghost Hydra P or P+ holster. They have a model which can be used with both the CZ S2 and Tanfoglio. On mine which was purchased from Italy it is marked Stock 2,3 Limited, Shadow 2, SPO1. But best to double check with Ghost. Also not sure if the Hydra P is ideal for 3-gun. As for the mag compatibility between the Small frame tanfo and CZ, some say its ok while others say they are not. I haven't checked for myself as I haven't purchased my CZ75B yet. IIRC, there may be an over insertion issue wherein the mag may hit the ejector upon insertion. I plan to try mag compatibility out once I get my CZ but that wont be anytime soon. It would seem nice to have 2 Tanfos or 2 CZ shadows to use for competition but get whatever makes you happy. That said, I currently use a Tanfo small frame Stock 1 and since I really dont want to have a second stock 1 (also want some sort of variety, no matter how small ), I am considering getting a Stock 2 as a second, or primary competition gun. After trying a Stock 2 I think the handling characteristics are close enough to my Stock 1. The Stock 3 I tried kinda had a different, softer. or slower recoil impulse, probably because of the front weight and barrel/slide length. It seems I like the "snappier" Stock 1 and Stock 2 better. Tried a friend's Shadow 2 and didnt like it that much. But that decision might be overshadowed if I like the CZ75B that much. I got to try one at a range and I liked it. Will be comparing my stock 1 to the CZ75B under a timer once I get the cz. But if I find the Stock 1 does better for me under the clock, the CZ75B does have another purpose other than competition. But if I decide to use the CZ75B for competition, variety will go out the window and I will be getting a another CZ75B. and probably sell my Stock 1. But that remains to be seen.....unless something new and shiny catches my eye It might be a good idea to try a Tanfo before you buy.

If that was an assembly issue and if that's been resolved then that sounds good. There is a video though of the round hanging up (FTF). Don't know if I can link the video here but its from the Youtube channel 3 of 7 Project. Look for their Echelon video. Don't know for sure if the issue was mag related but it was kinda unsettling if that happened to you. It did fare well in the Trex arms video however IIRC, if a partially empty mag was dropped the remaining rounds in the mag get hung up or come loose inside the mag. Don't know if a tap-the-mag drill will sort out the issue, assuming you pick up the partially empty mag and need to use it again. I haven't been shooting double stacked 9mms for a very long time though I have dropped my Tanfoglio mags in competition and I think I never noticed this phenomenon yet on a partially empty Tanfoglio mag being dropped. Maybe dropped partially empty mags do that, I just haven't seen it for myself or noticed, at least not yet. If I am going to get a new Poly-chassis gun this would be my top choice for now, but fortunately or unfortunately, have to wait a bit before getting one due to finances. Patience may be a good thing though for a new gun. Will also wait for the upcoming new czp10.

Initially I looked down and was also scared of DA/SA guns being so used to 1911s. However when I got into IPSC about 2 years back got myself a Tanfo Stock 1. Found that the DA first shot wasn't that bad at all. I just kinda remind myself, just pull it straight through and don't hesitate. My second, SA shot isn't that bad too and I dryfire just like Racinready300x. DA first shot, partially releasing the trigger to mimic the SA follow-up shots. First saw how to dry fire DA/SA in a Ben Stoeger video. One of the other things I do is a drill wherein first shot DA on first target and second shot (SA) on a different target. Kinda teaches better trigger control for both DA/SA. I think the drill is called "Double action familiarity" drill. Not sure on the name though. Also saw that on a Ben Stoeger video, I think. Yes I do notice the first DA pull however for some reason I am not much bothered by the transition to SA.

Looking forward to your report. Particularly interested how the magazines shake out after seeing a number of mag related issues online. If this works out would love to see this in the IPSC approved list.

Sorry to hijack, @johnbu What tanfo model is your primary? And how long did the original sear last or did you replace it straightaway?

Thanks for the reply @whitepointer Also happy you have had yours for 2 years and its still working. Here in the Philippines, ROs actually use these in matches in IPSC sanctioned matches. They do seem a good buy for the money. Am saving up to get one and waiting for them to go on sale. More established timer brands usually go for twice as much. Though I would like to get an AMG Commander, considering the shipping and tax cost, I think the Special Pie would do just fine for the price.

Been a subscriber to his channel for a little while. Definitely golden!

I would try to have them make it right, if I were in the USA. In my country its a different story. Its like you are married to your gun and have to get a divorce if you sell it. Forget about having the dealer replace it. Here is my SF Stock 1 9mm. The lines in the front strap weren't done right, the magwell is not properly centered, and the bottom of the grip seems to be askew. Looking at a few samples in a gunshow, including a more expensive Extreme Stock 2, magwells seemed to be off center sometimes, but I guess that does not affect performance or durability. I still like the gun though and hope wont be getting a divorce anytime soon. A bit surprising that my other Tanfoglio, an Armscor/Rock Island MAP1 FS (An Armscor-assembled Tanfoglio Combat F) seems to be much better built overall. If I were getting another Tanfo, I am going to be more careful in inspecting it.

Sorry for this very long post. After thinking about it a bit, is this the way the FPB works? *In all scenarios a round has been chambered. 1. If the slide is out of battery, the FPB wont be blocking the firing pin as there is nothing holding the FPB in the "up" position, so by firing pin inertia alone, in an very unlikely fall scenario - you can have a gun firing out of battery. In the following scenarios the thumb safety is not engaged (2,3 and 4). 2. If the hammer is fully cocked: 2a.-If the slide is in battery and a one piece sear fails or trips (dont know which is the more accurate description), the FPB wont be blocking the firing pin as the arm thats holding it in the "up" position will be "down" together with the sear - the gun will fire 2b.-If the slide is in battery and two-piece sear fails or trips the FPB will still be blocking the firing pin as the arm for the FPB is independent of the sear. - the gun will not fire 2c.-If the gun falls on its muzzle and slide remains in battery as long as the sear (either one piece or two piece) does not trip the gun should still be drop safe as the FPB will remain in the "up" position. - the gun will not fire 3. If the hammer is at half cock 3a. If the slide is in battery and a one piece sear fails or trips, the FPB wont be blocking the firing pin as the arm thats holding it in the "up" position will be "down" together with the sear, eventhough the hammer should not have enough force to ignite the primer but if there is enough firing pin inertia (maybe pluas the little force added from the hammer falling from half-cock) - the gun may fire 3b. If the slide is in battery and two-piece sear fails or trips the FPB will still be blocking the firing pin as the arm for the FPB is independent of the sear - the gun will not fire 3c.-If the gun falls on its muzzle and slide remains in battery as long as the sear (either one piece or two piece) does not trip the gun should still be drop safe as the FPB will remain in the "up" position. - the gun will not fire 4. If the gun is fully decocked - in this scenario I do not know what the position of the sear or the FPB arm will be. Will the FPB arm be in the "up" position, meaning the FPB is blocking the firing pin, or not? Of course, in this scenario hammer fall should not be an issue unless you have an extended firing pin. 4a.-If the slide is in battery and if the gun is fully decocked but the the FPB arm is not holding the FPB "up" then you can have an inertial firing pin discharge. 4b. If the slide is in battery and if the gun is fully decocked but the the FPB arm is holding the FPB "up" then you cannot have an inertial firing pin discharge. 5. As for Currywurst's scenario wherein the FPB is stuck in the "down" position when you rack the gun, this will allow the gun to go off if its a one piece sear, as the sear will trip along with the FPB arm. However on a two-piece sear even if it trips the arm that holds the FPB up, it should not trip the sear itself so the gun should not fire. Please feel free to correct me in any point if my understanding erroneous. 6. As an additional question, if the thumb safety were engaged, whether in full cock, half cock of fully decocked mode, would this make a difference in any of the above scenarios? Thanks very much for all your replies and thanks in advance for anything else you may share.

Thanks for all you replies. Good points all. Very much appreciated.

Hello everyone and happy holidays! Was wondering if anyone here has tried using heavier brass grips on a CZ 75B? I understand the objective of trying to balance a muzzle heavy gun (such as a CZ SP01 or Shadow 2) with a heavier grip. However was wondering how heavier brass grips would feel like on a gun with a lighter front end, such as a CZ 75B. Is there still some sort of improvement such as quicker target reacquisition, faster follow-up shots or a more stable gun for longer range shots? Thanks in advance for any sharing.

Happy holidays to all! @Nealio is the 2 piece sear also not drop safe or is it just the 1 piece sear? Saw this while trying to do some research on the matter: The way I understand it if, in one of your older posts (which I cant seem to find again), if the sear fails so does the fpb lever? So if in a 2 piece sear the fpb lever is independent from the sear then if the sear fails then the fpb lever should not be affected. Much like a series 80 1911?

Thanks for sharing Nealio. I have read some of your old posts but not sure if I saw something about the FPB. I also do carry the gun for self defense so if this is the case it would seem better to carry the gun cocked and locked to help ensure it is drop safe? A bit of a bummer as one of the reasons I went with Tanfos is that FPB, something that Shadows dont have at all and an FPB design that I think is superior to the CZ B series. But let the truth be known. Better to be safe and know exactly how your gun works, if it does work in that manner.

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I use Tanfoglio 16 rounders in Production (downloaded to 15 rounds) and whenever a mag hits the ground I wipe it down with a rag I always have with me and tap the mag, without disassembling. I also check that my baseplates are in position. I learned the hard way after my first match. I disassemble and clean the mags when I get home. Shoot outdoors and usually its grass and dirt, maybe some rocks here and there.