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11 hours ago, Bakerjd said:
Wow no kidding. Oddly enough I happen to own quite a few 2011s. I want a DWX because it's a different take on the 2011. I am assuming the recoil and lock up feel is a little different and more like the PT Honcho setup. Anyways next time I'll be sure to check with you before writing my opinion on anything.
It's only irritating because there aren't any wide safetys out for them yet.
For future reference, here's a parts compatibility list
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5 hours ago, Seanzky said:
What do you mean by Mec-Gar mags being a pain? Installing them?
I don't mean MecGar are a pain. I mean the fact that there are 16 &17 round CZ & MecGar mags & have different length mag bodies.
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22 minutes ago, Seanzky said:
Good to know! Can you please provide a link? Is the Mec-Gar one the same one for all 17-round CZ mag? Thanks!
75/S2/MecGar mags are a bit of a PITA. I'd call CZC to make sure you have the right tubes and extensions.
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I'm running CZC mag extensions with a Lok magwell on my TSO. Would imagine the same combo would work for the S2 as well.
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If you aren't going to modify them, the DWX has a 4-4.5 lb trigger while the TS2O has a sub-2 lb trigger.
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2 hours ago, Pitt Bull said:
I just got my DWX. Fit and Finish is great, But it has a 4.5 pound trigger. Does anyone know who can do a good trigger job on it?
Also thanks to all who answered my previous question about the holster.
Got my Red Hill holster and love it.
@eerw who told you about the Red Hill Tactical holster also indicated that CZ Custom is going to be doing trigger work on the DWX...
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3 minutes ago, PhilosopherKing said:
I tend to see problems and attempt to solve them before they occure.
What part of "thousands of people compete with non-firing pin block guns" did you skip over? Thousands CCW 1911's. I think you are overstating the problem.
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9 hours ago, PhilosopherKing said:
Does this thing have a firing pin block? Verifiable by picture (s).
To be clear, a firing pin stop is typically a small metal part that only physically blocks the forward movement of the firing pin. It does not necessarily block the firing pin from moving in other ways, such as being struck by an external force. A firing pin block, on the other hand, is designed to physically block the firing pin from moving in any direction until the trigger is pulled, making it a more reliable safety mechanism.
In some firearms, the firing pin stop and firing pin block can be integrated into one part, but they perform different functions. It is important to note that the firing pin stop is mainly used to prevent the firing pin from moving forward in the event of an accidental discharge. The firing pin block, on the other hand, is used to prevent the firearm from firing if the trigger is not pulled, such as if the gun is dropped or bumped.
If there is no block, why get one? A toy? As a comp gun it doesn't fit much, as a concealed carry item it can be bump fired without a block. I just finished reading the whole thread here on these issues, took an hour, and I think it was closed too quickly with not enough tests of MULTIPLE factory/oem/unmolested units.
If there is an update on the drop fire/ bump fire issue and it has been resolved in the last 2-3 years I am open to this as a CCW. However I would like data. The staccato folk claim,
"Q. The Staccato P doesn't have any sort of active firing pin block or safety. Are you using a lightweight titanium firing pin to help ensure the pistol won't fire if dropped?
It is not necessary, as the P has passed every drop test at all the major departments that have tested and approved our guns. The use of firing pin blocks like the Colt Series 80, Kimber style, etc., cause more problems and malfunctions."
1911 Purists are saying that they prefer the series 70 and just replace firing pin spring with a heavier one to make it more safe when dropped. The new Colt 1911 models now are mostly reverting back to the classic series 70 design.
I am personally not knowledgeable or experienced enough to know if changing out for a heavier firing pin spring makes it more drop safe.
Another argument that it doesn't matter that there is no firing pin block is from the 1911 guys.
https://sightm1911.com/lib/tech/inertial_discharge.htm
What are you talking about? "Resolved in the last 2-3 years"? You realize this gun just came to market less than a month ago, right? And that thousands of people compete with non-firing pin block guns every year. 1911's, 2011's, Shadows, TS's, TSO's, Czechmates etc?
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This was uploaded a day ago & no response to the comment asking about function or a video showing function. I'll wait on calling it a hack until I see proof it actually works
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1 hour ago, OptimiStick said:
Any word on an OR version?
Q2
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8 hours ago, ULshooter2491 said:
I’d guess shadow2 or Tactical sport block but that would get expensive just buying to try.
The trigger guard doesn't look anything like a CZ... The DWX is much more square.
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"Some" shooting
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12 minutes ago, Johnny_Chimpo said:
Math is math. If you can score more points than a major PF shooter in the same time or if you can score the same points faster, then you beat him.
But that would mean putting in the work.
I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm saying that for 99% of shooters - i.e., almost everyone not names Nils - its a severe disadvantage. Whoever feels like doing it as a challenge, good on 'em. However, it seems like an unnecessary handicap for the vast majority.
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7 minutes ago, bravofox said:
you're right. this is weird, retailers have them listed on their sites in .40 but dan wesson is only showing 9mm
A lot of places, especially anyone listing them for ~$1800, are left over SKU's from when it was announced 3 years ago.
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31 minutes ago, bravofox said:
how so? they're offering one in .40?
No they're not. At least not currently.
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The DWX will put you in the same place as the 9mm TSO.
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6 hours ago, Johnny_Chimpo said:
It's no disadvantage if you shoot 90 - 95% of the points really fast
Okay
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12 minutes ago, Johnny_Chimpo said:
They sure as hell have USPSA divisions where they fit.
Same as the DWX. Limited shooting 9mm. Which everyone makes fun of. Hell, you can't even type A fudgecicle nobody but a few crayon chewers and winder likkers want on this forum.
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If you are on the "CZ-USA Owners Group" Facebook page, Milos Klacko from Armory Craft just posted a compatibility guide for the DWX for his stuff. I'll share his text, but you'll have to fo there for pics:
"Heard a few comments from some folks that they like the DWX, but are not too crazy about the stock bright red grips. Took a bunch of CZ parts home from the shop to see what works and what doesn't work.
Although they state on Dan Wesson website that 'CZ grips fit', things are not as straight forward as I wished.
DW website:
"The DWX can utilize standard grips from a CZ 75. Corresponding magwells for the 75 series are compatible as well. With so many ways to tune and customize, the DWX is sure to shine!"
This is what I found:
- regular lenght (so called Long) aluminum CZ factory grips fit fine.
- the screws on DW are shorter and a different thread pitch vs CZ factory (shaking my head as to *why??*)
- DW screws will grab the factory aluminum grips, but are too short for LOK grips and possibly other aftermarket grips. Good news is that it took me only about 5 minutes to modify the LOK g10 grips and the screws grabbed the frame just fine.
- of the 3 factory CZ magwells (75, SH2, CM/TS/TSO) only the widest TS magwell fits.
- unfortunately the standard CZ factory *short grips for magwells* will not fit as the holes do not align (see the picture) when the magwell is used. We are talking less than 1mm!! My guess is that the DW frame is less than 1mm shorter vs standard lenght 75/SH2/TS frame, because the *short* grips are just a hair too long. Again SMH!!! You can see pics here where I used the factory TS magwell with factory short grips but unfortunately I was not able to use the screws....just pushed the grips in as forward as I could. Therefore, if you will want to use a magwell, you will need custom *DWX short grips* that are 1mm shorter vs. the standard lenght of CZ *short grips for magwell*. This is dumb and disappointing!.....but we will have them available very soon.
- Armory Craft (and I'm sure other companies) P10/P09 Plus-2, Plus-4 base pads for magwells or Plus-2 (non-magwell) work just fine.
In the end, this is a great gun and I cannot wait to start tweaking it, as I mentioned in my other post.
Our future plans include a threaded bull barrel as well as a compensator that will be nicely visually matching with the slide and the 'long dust cover' of the frame."
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13 minutes ago, mrvip27 said:
but it is still a 75 frame..so i would imagine 75 series magwells??
It's not an actual 75 frame. How would you fit a p09/p10 magazine into a 75 magwell?
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38 minutes ago, Superkaratemonkeyfighter said:
What’s the magwell options looks like ?
Is it a stock cz pattern magwell comparable ?If anything, it would be a p10 or p09 magwell rather than a 75 series or TS series magwell. I'd be surprised if a magwell designed for a polymer gun would also work on a steel frame one.
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1 hour ago, WxGuy said:
Is SAO a thing now in USPSA CO??? Or is this thing just a nice range plinker? I see a nice Limited gun in 40 if it really happens.
As I said earlier, not everything has to be a USPSA blaster. Staccato and Springfield have sold plenty of double stack 1911's without a USPSA division to shoot them in.
Czechmate in open/minor
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Sorry to hijack. Do Czechmates run 9 minor with the comp or only without?