Leftridge Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 147 gr Precision 3.5 gn Solo 1000 1.120" 132 pf Glock 34 129 pf M&P 4.25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Yep that would be a very light load. I load 124g JHPs over 4.5g of Universal to 1.080 OAL and use Federal Magnum primers. Sal Why the magnum primers? Have you chrono'd? I'd guess that load gets close to 1200fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal1950 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) Yep that would be a very light load. I load 124g JHPs over 4.5g of Universal to 1.080 OAL and use Federal Magnum primers. Sal Why the magnum primers? Have you chrono'd? I'd guess that load gets close to 1200fps. During the ammo/component shortage of 2008-9 magnum primers were all I could find, so I adjusted my pet loads down a taste and started running tests using them. Never showed any issues of high pressures but did notice the powder burned cleaner with almost no soot or leftover flakes. Accuracy also seemed a bit better across the board, I think due to more consistent ignition. But I can't prove that because I don't have a chrono, when I lived up in Illinois I never had any place I could set one up. Just retired and moved to FL and will be getting one in the very near future.. I would guess the velocity to be closer to 1100 fps per Hodgdons data. Lastly, I now only have to stock two primers (Federal L&S pistol magnums) and can buy in bulk to save money. Sal PS, I DO NOT recommend this mag primer approach to guys that use any powder much faster than Universal/Unique. Results using spikey fast powders like Bullseye, Clays, Titegroup, etc; could have dangerous results. Edited April 2, 2012 by Sal1950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveT-NV Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Current Favorite Load Glock 34 Montana Gold 124 grain N320 Powder - 4.06 g OAL - 1.15 Avg MV - 1053 fps Before the above I had tried Powder - W231 - 4.3 g Avg MV - 1072 Montana Gold 124 grain FMJ OAL - 1.15 Powder - AA #2 3.95 g Avg MV - 1029 Montana Gold 124 grain FMJ OAL - 1.15 I prefer the N320 - accuracy is better, and is a lot cleaner than the other two powders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeyedme Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 147 - Bayou Bullet 3.8 - VV N330 1.135 - OAL WSP Mixed headstamp 135 PF out of my P226 Laser accurate, very clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannix Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Well no one has said it, 4.7 grns of Unique with a 125 cast bullet is a super accurate load. Yea its a little dirty, you got to clean anyway. OAL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAB81 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 PD 124gr JHP 4.7gr WSF WSP 1.125" OAL Mixed Range Brass This load is money in my GEN 4 G17 w/13# ISMI spring. I have also tried this bullet with WST & TG, and I like the feel of WSF much better. I also shot 1000rds of Berry's 147gr over 3.5gr TG, and I definitely prefer the 124gr bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40cal_joe Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Wow this is a lot to try and process for a guy looking for a starting load. I was hoping to at least narrow it down to a bullet weight! What I have is a new XDM 5.25 competition in 9mm. I am new to this game but not competition shooting. I ordered a bunch of zero bullets last night but they had nothing in 9mm. I was thinking 147g for the lower recoil, but it seems that heavy bullets leaves little room for powder and could lead to pressure issues. Somebody give me a an idea for a load with the XDM to start with. I have VV N310, Power Pistol, Unique, Bullseye and Clays powders lying around. Mixed brass and WSP. Need a bullet to work with. I ordered some PD sample packs a couple weeks ago but have not received them. Help? Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal1950 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) Wow this is a lot to try and process for a guy looking for a starting load. I was hoping to at least narrow it down to a bullet weight! What I have is a new XDM 5.25 competition in 9mm. I am new to this game but not competition shooting. I ordered a bunch of zero bullets last night but they had nothing in 9mm. I was thinking 147g for the lower recoil, but it seems that heavy bullets leaves little room for powder and could lead to pressure issues. Somebody give me a an idea for a load with the XDM to start with. I have VV N310, Power Pistol, Unique, Bullseye and Clays powders lying around. Mixed brass and WSP. Need a bullet to work with. I ordered some PD sample packs a couple weeks ago but have not received them. Help? Joe LOL, You ask 100 people and you'll get about 97 different answers. There's a ton of good info here but you got to start somewhere so work with what you got. Break out that classic Unique powder and the 124g FMJ's you get in the PD sampler. Load them over about 4.6g of Unique to a OAL of about 1.140. This will be a fairly light load with plenty of room to work up, max would be 5.0+g. For the 115 FMJ bump load up to 4.8g and for 147 FMJ go down to 3.9g. If you get the JHP use an OAL of 1.080 The first with the PD 124 FMJ's is actually one of my pet loads and shoots very well in my Ruger SR9c, Beretta 92, and Taurus P11, should give you a happy start in your XDM. Sal Edited April 7, 2012 by Sal1950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannix Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I also shot 1000rds of Berry's 147gr over 3.5gr TG, and I definitely prefer the 124gr bullets. Ever tried the 147s over WSF? I ask as I have a pound of WSF I'd like to shoot up, and exploring its use with 140grn boolits. For the 115 FMJ bump load up to 4.8g and for 147 FMJ go down to 3.9g. If you get the JHP use an OAL of 1.080 1.08OAL for the 115 and 147s, in addition to the 124s? That's for the clarification! Joe, different weights is a preference thing. Personally though, I'd recommend starting with 115grn JRNs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimMTP Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Just worked up a new load for my M&P 9L that I think is going to be a keeper. 124 gn fmj 4.5 7625 1.140 oal 131pf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal1950 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) For the 115 FMJ bump load up to 4.8g and for 147 FMJ go down to 3.9g. If you get the JHP use an OAL of 1.080 1.08OAL for the 115 and 147s, in addition to the 124s? That's for the clarification! Precision Delta only makes JHP's in 124g. Sal Edited April 12, 2012 by Sal1950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassnbud Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 147 gr Montana Gold CMJ 3.3gr Titegroup CCI 500 primer OAL 1.130 Shoft shooting from Glock 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txmac66 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) 9mm XDm 4.5 CCI 500 primer Remmington brass Rainier plated plated RN 124g 4.0g Bullseye 1.145 OAL 1040fps 1064 1051 1040 1055 Edited April 14, 2012 by txmac66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Now that I have a chrono and access to a location I can shoot outdoors I am going to get some test loads worked up in the next few weeks. When done I will report my results be they good or bad. Joe W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizer67 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 For the 115 FMJ bump load up to 4.8g and for 147 FMJ go down to 3.9g. If you get the JHP use an OAL of 1.080 1.08OAL for the 115 and 147s, in addition to the 124s? That's for the clarification! Precision Delta only makes JHP's in 124g. Sal Where'd you get that information? PD 124 FMJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjennings10 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 XDm 5.25 9mm 63 degrees Sunny Federal Brass MG 124 gr HP-38 4.6 Federal SP Primer OAL: 1.135 Crimp: .376 1,137 1,137 1,131 1,118 1,144 1,128 Avg: 1132.5 140.43 Power Factor Off-hand slow fire at 18 yards was easily under 2.5" (I suck at group shooting). I'll be using this load at VA/MD sectional and Area 8. ____________________________ Sig p226 Elite Dark 9mm Federal Brass MG 124 gr HP-38 4.6 Federal SP Primer OAL: 1.135 Crimp: .376 1,085 1,083 1,094 Avg: 1087.33 134.83 Power Factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarmyaviator Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Precision Delta only makes JHP's in 124g. Sal You may want to check their website again, they make 124 gr FMJs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal1950 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 For the 115 FMJ bump load up to 4.8g and for 147 FMJ go down to 3.9g. If you get the JHP use an OAL of 1.080 1.08OAL for the 115 and 147s, in addition to the 124s? That's for the clarification! Precision Delta only makes JHP's in 124g. Sal Where'd you get that information? PD 124 FMJ Precision Delta only makes JHP's in 124g. Sal You may want to check their website again, they make 124 gr FMJs. Yes I know. You guys need to re-read the original question. My point was that PD doesn't make JHPs in 115 or 147s. Sal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Precision Delta only makes JHP's in 124g. Sal You may want to check their website again, they make 124 gr FMJs. I suspect he meant the only 9mm JHP they make are 124gr. Even those are, AFAIK, a relatively recent addition to their product line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddjob Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 170 grn Bear Creek Bullet with 3.2 of WSF at 1.125. PF of 132 from my CZ Shadow. I shot this in two other 9mm guns and got 126 and 136 PF's. Very soft shooting and accurate. 1 3/4" group at 20 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kool Aid Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 HK P30L Zero 147g FMJ 1.15 COAL 3.8g Win WSF Fed Match SP 128 PF Same specs with 3.9g WSF yields 132 PF and mocks Atlanta Arms 147g reloads. Cheap practice: PD 115g FMJ 1.142 COAL 5.0g WSF CCI SP 127 PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddler Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 M&P Pro with 5" KKM barrel 147gr MG CMJ CCI SPPs 4.2gr WSF OAL 1.17 The chrono says 934 fps for a power factor of 137. My barrel would actually like a longer OAL but 1.17 is the longest I can get to run reliably in my magazines. I'm going to try N320 and also some 124 MG JHPs just for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sthrngnr Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Pretty much same load for a 75 shadow MG 124 JHP 4.1 gr TG 1.125 OAL CCI Mixed brass .375 crimp Super accurate Load I have been shooting Mixed range brass (mostly Win, Federal, Speer, and R P) 124 Gr. MG CMJ 1.12 OAL Win SP 4.0 gr TiteGroup Recoil in my 75 Shadow feels similar to the 124 gr Speer Lawman load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67ls7vert Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Adding my data to the pile. I answered my own question by making up some loads with autocomp. The only reason why I wanted to try it because it was in my powder dispenser already. 10 shot strings out of a CZ SP01 loaded to 1.105 topped with precision bullets 147gr and federal sp primers. The handfull I weighed were 148.1gr-148.3gr. I used 148 for the PF calculation 3.5 gr of autocomp Avg velocity 870.9 PF 128.9 3.7gr autocomp Avg velocity 897.6 PF 132.8 3.9gr autocomp Avg velocity 938.7 PF 138.9 I will be loading N320 next and will post data along with a comparison between the two powders. I'm really interested in the Autocomp with 115gr in the 9mm, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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