Philadelphia Gunman Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 (edited) Production 40 cal Glock52 points17.68 seconds2.94 hf Edited September 13, 2013 by sperman Fixed Broken Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nmchenry Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 As a right handed shooter would you start on the lfet or right? Would you shoot the steel first if your club's steel falls slowly or would you go in order? Would you shoot from the edge of the barricade away from the barricade on each side or would you shoot from away from barricade towards it? Any other hints for a 50 percent "C" shooter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 I haven't shoot this one... On paper, it looks like you can see all the targets (no waiting for a popper to fall so you can see a target that is behind it). I like shooting from the left side first from around a barricade (right handed). The left side is tougher for me. Often I can get set better for that side before the buzzer goes off. I would shoot it from the outside going in (pp1, t1, pp2, t2), reload, the outside in on the right side (pp4, t4, pp3, t3). I wouldn't worry about how fast/slow the poppers fall. I would worry about calling each and every shot. You gotta know where your bullets are going to hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 Assuming we all agree that for a right handed shooter, shooting targets aound the left side of a barricade is more difficult than the right, the fastest way to engage the targets on 99-42 is to engage the right side first. Because of the awkward body position and further distance the gun needs to travel from the holster to the needed sight alignment on the left side, why not utilize that required time while your reloading? Before the buzzer, LOOK at the first target on the right side. Shoot smoothly across the targets in order, don't shoot the steel first, then backtrack to get the paper. If you do that you're killing time by pointing the muzzle somewhere where it already been. You should've shot the target the first time the muzzle was there. Reload while shifting your body weight to the left side of the barricade. By the time you've reloaded you should be in 90% of the awkward position needed to engage the left side targets. Time saved comes from: -time to first shot -engaging targets smoothly (don't skip around). -using the reloading time to get into position on left side. I shot this one a couple weeks ago. All was going well untill I looked down to see my mag hanging halfway out during reload. So there I am with a fresh mag in my left hand and shaking the hell outta the gun in my right (trying to get the damn mag out!) It must have cost me 3 seconds....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Bagoly Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 http://www.uspsa.org/classifiers/cm99-42.gif The paper targets are up higher than the poppers. I don't like the up-down-up-down thing you have to do, if you go right across (Edited by Rich Bagoly at 5:46 pm on May 11, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 I have only shot this one once. I shot it the same way Flexmoney described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 I shoot it exactly like Kyle says except I draw on the right popper. Shortest distance to get to the shooting. Saves 1 or 2 tenths. Although your personal comfort level might save the same time, so left is good. At high classes this is a FAST and furious one with 6 secs or less the norm. No time to watch the poppers fall. In fact the ones on the ending side are usually falling as the shooter is unloading. Popper target popper taget is the only fast way to shoot this classifier. Remember economy of motion. (Edited by BSeevers at 9:55 pm on May 12, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBoyle Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Bill is right Start on the right side with the right popper first and work your way across to the left with popper then paper. It is generally smoother to always reload into the gun as you are crossing sides then to have to chase the gun with the mag while you reload. I hope this made sense. I do not remember my time or hit factor but I was at 92% on this stage Brian (Edited by BBoyle at 12:33 am on July 25, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THS Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 Shot this Saturday. Not good. Tried left side first, with a miss on a popper, then to right side where I was thinking FASTER and ended up taking 4 shots at a popper there. Worse yet, I shoot left first because I felt the barricade was twisted a little making the right more visible. I thought I'd shoot the hard stuff first then wear out the other side. WRONG. Ended up with a 52 point 8.7 second run, for a HF of 5.9770 YUCK Live and learn. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 62% Not too shabby with the extra shots and barricade misreading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Calling the shot is good advice on this one... I second guessed myself and took an extra hit on the last paper target (worst part is I took an extra 3/4 second to decide.) Limited Class / G35 53pts 0 Pen. 11.08sec 4.783hf DOH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 (edited) August 11, 2002: M Limited 49 0 5.93 8.2631 (86% nationally); IIRC, I shot it PP-PP-IPSC-IPSC. July 20, 2003: M Limited 55 0 6.64 8.2831; this time I shot it PP-IPSC-PP-IPSC. Drawing to the array on your holster side is a no-brainer. Edited July 23, 2003 by Erik Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajarrel Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Shot it Saturday at the Mississippi Classic. "C" Limited 56 pts 9.40 hf 5.9574 shot right side first stl-paper-stl-paper mag chng left side stl-paper-stl-paper great match this year had a lot of fun Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Looking at about 62%. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Shot it at the MS classic also. I had high hopes on this being my 3rd 100%er in Production. Didn't happen. Shot it in 6.62 with 2 D's 2 C's. Dropped way too many points. Oh well, at least it won't even count... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Almost 80% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Jake, lucky me it's almost 80%. If it was 80% it would count. And I don't want it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Yeah if my chart is right, it's like 79.xxxx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 What chart? Is there a way to figure your percentage with your h.f.? Hope so, I hate to wait for the website to update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Yeah theres A way to do it with some math, but they can't be posted (USPSA's rule). Go ahead and post your scores here and I'll see what I can do to calculate them for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 I believe you did calculate my 99-11 for me, at least I think it was you!? I shot 99-42 at the MS Classic, it was my first stage so I didn't blow and go. 10.17 @52pts for a 5.11HF. This is for Production. I slowed up too much, but out of my squad only myself and one more shooter did not have mikes. I did not want to start my match that way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Just over 56%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted February 14, 2004 Share Posted February 14, 2004 Shot this again today at a club match in Production. I fumbled the draw bad, had to reshift my grip and reacquire the sights. As soon as I got squared away I went fullauto on it. Shot it in 6.23, 2 C's. If I didn't have almost a full sec in fumbling the gun, I would have 100'ed this one. Looks like a 98.780 anyway. But I did hit a smokin mag change. I really wish I hadn't blown the draw, I would have liked to see what could have happened... edited to correct my time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38SuperWes Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Hey Jake...just curious...where would a 7.5967 hit factor come out in Open? thanks..WES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Grrl Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 7.5967 HF = c. 69% I shot this one at our match yesterday... HAD a smoking good run on the right side (drew right and went pp-ipsc-pp-ipsc). Had my first 1 sec draw to a steel - even nailed the reload! Then went into total brain fart mode... started on the INSIDE pp when I wanted to go the outside and lost it all from there. Ended up throwing 3 shots downrange at the last popper. One of these days I have to learn recovery skills Ended up with 8 sec run, down 0 - a nice wanky 6.9 HF. Blech! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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