Dirtchevy841 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Don’t know if this was posted looked but I can’t find anything. Issue is on my 650. My shell plate is moving backwards when it hits that halfway point going up and the index ball grabs plate to turn. When you here it snap when handle is half way down the shell plate moves backward a little bit and makes my case move out a little and when the shell plate reaches tool head the case hits the sizer die and jams cause that little pop halfway up moves it back very little. Any ideas. Would that alignment tool Dillon has fix this. Gonna call Dillon Monday but it really sucks cause every other round hits the sizer die and I have to push it in s little to go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 42 minutes ago, Dirtchevy841 said: Don’t know if this was posted looked but I can’t find anything. Issue is on my 650. My shell plate is moving backwards when it hits that halfway point going up and the index ball grabs plate to turn. When you here it snap when handle is half way down the shell plate moves backward a little bit and makes my case move out a little and when the shell plate reaches tool head the case hits the sizer die and jams cause that little pop halfway up moves it back very little. Any ideas. Would that alignment tool Dillon has fix this. Gonna call Dillon Monday but it really sucks cause every other round hits the sizer die and I have to push it in s little to go in. Tighten the plate until it just barely moves freely by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 36 minutes ago, Sarge said: Tighten the plate until it just barely moves freely by hand. I tried that sarge still has that little kick in it and moves case out a little. It helped but still does it. More info. When I push to prime the shell plate is centered with the primer punch. But when I go to raise the ram you can see the shell plate move backward a little and the shell plate is not centered anymore it’s more towards the sizer die more. If I could upload a pic I would but think if the horse shoe shape of plate around primer punch when it starts going up it moves backwards a little and the horse shoe is more to the rear and the side facing the powder die way is flush with the side of the primer punch. It’s no ring back that little bit when I start raising ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 There are two separate adjustments on the XL650. You can adjust the indexer block, #16776, to line the shellplate over the primer. Also, you can use a platform alignment tool to line up the platform with the dies. Contact us, we can send you the appropriate alignment tools for both. You want to align the platform first. Then, if necessary, adjust the indexer block. If you email us, please include your address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 As usual Dillon top notch customer service. Dave at Dillon sent out alignment tool yesterday says it should solve my issues after telling him the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Got both the primer punch index tool and platform align tool. Will try both this weekend hopefullly it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Not happy about this but can’t do nothing about it. Alignment tool or index tool did nothing to help. Less than 10,000 rds loaded on this press and to get alignment tool to work like directions say it cause the case feed arm to jam the silver sleeve where cases drop out of also makes the arm rub the cam follower. By aligning it to the tool it binds to other things bind all up that didn’t before. Always had a couple issues when I first bought press but I guess it was something more than just thinking it was me. If I New it was off this bad would’ve sent it back sooner because that’s what I have to do after talking with Dillon today. Hopefully when it comes back I won’t have any issues anymore but not to happy to have to do this knowing the alignment tool would cause more issues. Hope it doesn’t take to long to get it back but it’s kibda sucks knowing the press wasn’t right for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Anybody send their 650 back how long did it take to get it back. And was the issues fixed with no other problems when press was back. My press is basically brand new still so it’s kinda upsetting that’s it’s gotta go back. From what I got from Dillon it’s a serious issue now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Never had to send mine back. But be assured they will have it running like a top when it comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 70 bucks to ship half a press back to dillon. This sucks. Hope it comes back running like a top cause this is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currently Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I know you are frustrated. However, Dillon owns their problems, they do not point fingers. I sent one press back to be reconditioned and it came back like new, all obsolete parts were replaced. My other 550 that I got from the estate of a good friend was in very bad shape. Springs stretched out, parts were bent, powder measure was the old obsolete type. I go on YouTube and figure out that this is easy, I can do this. I call them up and give them my list, they sent me everything I asked for except for the powder measure that I have to send it so they can replace it. It took me 4 hours watching the videos and taking my time to rebuild my press. I now have three working Dillons. They support their equipment like no other company I ever dealt with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Currently said: I know you are frustrated. However, Dillon owns their problems, they do not point fingers. I sent one press back to be reconditioned and it came back like new, all obsolete parts were replaced. My other 550 that I got from the estate of a good friend was in very bad shape. Springs stretched out, parts were bent, powder measure was the old obsolete type. I go on YouTube and figure out that this is easy, I can do this. I call them up and give them my list, they sent me everything I asked for except for the powder measure that I have to send it so they can replace it. It took me 4 hours watching the videos and taking my time to rebuild my press. I now have three working Dillons. They support their equipment like no other company I ever dealt with. Good to hear. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 Update: talked to dillon today should be on the work bench in the next couple days. I am running low on bullets ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) Press back home today. Just opened box and it’s basically a brand new press only thing not new on it is the frame. I would think that when they got it they just stripped it to the frame and replaced all the parts instead of messing around with it. Looks awesome. Didn’t know what to expect I’ve fever sent a whole press back before only needed parts here and there. Hopefully I’ll have it all back together tomorrow. I will say Dillon is a awesome company because I guess they could’ve just changed certain parts but to replace whole press WOW. Even parts that wasn’t an issue were changed only blue frame is mine from before. Thanks Gary at Dillon for taking care of press for me. Customer 4 life here. ?? Edited April 7, 2018 by Dirtchevy841 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom S. Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 10 hours ago, Dirtchevy841 said: Press back home today. Just opened box and it’s basically a brand new press only thing not new on it is the frame. I would think that when they got it they just stripped it to the frame and replaced all the parts instead of messing around with it. Looks awesome. Didn’t know what to expect I’ve fever sent a whole press back before only needed parts here and there. Hopefully I’ll have it all back together tomorrow. I will say Dillon is a awesome company because I guess they could’ve just changed certain parts but to replace whole press WOW. Even parts that wasn’t an issue were changed only blue frame is mine from before. Thanks Gary at Dillon for taking care of press for me. Customer 4 life here. ?? Even though I've never had to have this extend of service from Dillon, and don't expect to, just that fact that these stories are out there make you know what to expect should you ever need this level of customer service. I even read about one owner of a 550, whose press went through a garage fire, and Dillon replaced it for free! Amazing company. And while other press companies now offer 'lifetime' warranties, they only do so because Dillon drove them to do so. This is one Kool-Aid I'll gladly drink and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Tom S. said: Even though I've never had to have this extend of service from Dillon, and don't expect to, just that fact that these stories are out there make you know what to expect should you ever need this level of customer service. I even read about one owner of a 550, whose press went through a garage fire, and Dillon replaced it for free! Amazing company. And while other press companies now offer 'lifetime' warranties, they only do so because Dillon drove them to do so. This is one Kool-Aid I'll gladly drink and support. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 All back together. Realigned dies again looks like a new press. Ran some test dummy rounds 100% so far. Gonna try to reload some tomorrow that will be the final word. When I was putting everything back on it I first tried the alignment tool and on first crank worked like a charm. Member asked what the turnaround time was it was about 2 weeks. Awesome service and it’s looks like it’s ready to roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 Finally a chance to try the press since getting back from Dillon. Ran 1000 rds no issues and it’s smooth as goose shit . Gonna load about 3k this weekend. Dillon top notch came back better than new and runs like a top now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 4/6/2018 at 9:53 PM, Dirtchevy841 said: Press back home today. Just opened box and it’s basically a brand new press only thing not new on it is the frame. I would think that when they got it they just stripped it to the frame and replaced all the parts instead of messing around with it. Looks awesome. Didn’t know what to expect I’ve fever sent a whole press back before only needed parts here and there. Hopefully I’ll have it all back together tomorrow. I will say Dillon is a awesome company because I guess they could’ve just changed certain parts but to replace whole press WOW. Even parts that wasn’t an issue were changed only blue frame is mine from before. Thanks Gary at Dillon for taking care of press for me. Customer 4 life here. glad to hear all is good. I didn't expect anything less than exceptional service from Dillon. After all, that's why we bought Dillon in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) So much for the press working. A little after 2300 rds broken again. This is bullshit. Now it’s gotta go back again probably when I call and waste shipping money again. Warranty don’t mean shit if I gotta keep paying 75 bucks to ship it back. This is total bullshit. I am fn pissed off now. I know y’all gonna say they gonna fix it but this is bullshit. I am thinking I got the lemon at the dillon factory now. Nothing but issues with this fu%*#ng press since I got it. Not a happy blue customer right now. This is ridiculous now. Edited May 27, 2018 by Dirtchevy841 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 Also my 650 I run my rifle stuff on never one issue. Zero. More rounds than the broken one. That’s why I am saying it might be a lemon. This press nothing but issues and needs to be replaced at this point. I love my dillon stuff but this issue with this press needs to be resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conditionone Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 What issue are you having? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 3 hours ago, conditionone said: What issue are you having? What issues haven’t I had with this press. But the worse was about 2 months ago that’s when I had to send it back. Every other round was jamming into the sizer die. Dillon sent me the tool to realign the primer punch that didn’t work. Then they sent me the alignment tool for the platform and that didn’t work. I couldn’t even align the platform because the adjustment I needed to get it to work would jam the case feed arm into the silver nipple the case drop from. I had to turn the platform almost a 1/4 in to get it to align and that wasn’t right so dillon wanted it back. They pretty much changed everything except the frame. Well yesterday for the first time reloading since I got it back it was running fine til around 1000 rds and I felt it getting some resistance one the down stroke and then the cases started to hit the sizer die again but not many jams and then the ring indexer blew apart. Took apart realigned the platform which in turn almost went back to previous but it made it by a little. Started loading again and popped 2 e clips on the sizer die because cases started hitting and some jamming the die. Then the finaly, cases started jamming again and then the platform jammed and stop mid stroke wouldn’t budge couldn’t move handle couldn’t get cases off shell plate so I had to literally go slow and force handle foward to get ram down and ring indexer blew apart again and also case feed arm was jammed. I have no clue what’s wrong with this damn press. I have 2 other dillons a 650 and 550 over ten years old with not one issue. But this press is crap. I think it’s a lemon. Dillon has great stuff but sometimes there’s bad ones everywhere. I am hoping they switched it out cause I tired of messing with this press and I shouldn’t have to anymore. It’s beyond fixing now. Sorry to be so long winded but it’s just ridiculous having to do so much to get this press to run right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conditionone Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I had the same problem. Every other case mouth would contact the sizing die. My problem started when I replaced the case insert slide. The new slide is made of a different material, it's more like fiberglass. What I found was that the slide was hitting the ejector wire. I had a new wire so I replaced it. Same issue. When moving the slide in and out I could see it wasn't going all the way towards the shell plate, hitting the wire. I removed the slide and filed a bevel on the inside so it will not contact the wire. 3000 rounds later, not one damaged case mouth. Not sure this is your problem, but worth looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Since you already have one thread where you are talking about issues with this press I am closing this one. We do allow you to work through problems with your equipment by seeking advice and help but one thread is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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