OPENB Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Surprised at the lack of discussion on the BoD meeting agenda and decisions. Found reference to it in the CZ section, and just went and read them for myself. BoD approved slide lightening cuts for CO, and removed provisional status. Approved aftermarket triggers in CO AND Production. New Production rules take effect in 3 months, CO now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I did not even see an agenda for this meeting prior to this post. Some significant changes in CO, that’s for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Apex triggers on order for my Q5.... changes to triggers also appear to impact Production though they don’t take effect for 3 months, whereas CO is legal today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 PCC is no longer provisional, though I didn't see any talk of fixing the classifier hit factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 And I guess they forgot all about the 2" rule that they were supposed to act on at this meeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 What was the issue with the 2” rule... Is it too short ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClangClang Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Where are the meeting minutes posted? I haven't found them on the new site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) You need to be logged in https://uspsa.org/bod_minutes its under Member Resources Edited February 17, 2018 by BritinUSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjracing Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I like everything but the trigger rule... it can turn even the most basic of classes into gear races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 hours ago, BritinUSA said: What was the issue with the 2” rule... Is it too short ? Supposedly at this meeting they were going to change it to width of scoring overlay for restricted divisions and length of overlay for limited/Open. It was discussed last year but they had to wait until this year due to by laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Wow! This is now legal in carry optics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipdynamite Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Other than doing slide cuts to get a Shadow 2 or a Stock II to make weight, does it offer any advantage to making cuts on a pistol that's already legal? Like an SP-01. Edited February 17, 2018 by kipdynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstamper Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 8 hours ago, stick said: Wow! This is now legal in carry optics! YES IT IS! very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstamper Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, kipdynamite said: Other than doing slide cuts to get a Shadow 2 or a Stock II to make weight, does it offer any advantage to making cuts on a pistol that's already legal? Like an SP-01. Outside of reducing weight, no. BUT there is the "that's cool" factor. I am sure that someone will say that the cuts cause air friction so that helps keep the muzzle from rising (LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipdynamite Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, mstamper said: Outside of reducing weight, no. BUT there is the "that's cool" factor. I am sure that someone will say that the cuts cause air friction so that helps keep the muzzle from rising (LOL) Okay. Good! I feel like I just found $200.00. I abandoned trying to look "cool" years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Sarge said: Supposedly at this meeting they were going to change it to width of scoring overlay for restricted divisions and length of overlay for limited/Open. It was discussed last year but they had to wait until this year due to by laws Thanks, my RHT holster and SpringerPrecision hanger are right at 2”... a little wiggle room would have been nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, kipdynamite said: Other than doing slide cuts to get a Shadow 2 or a Stock II to make weight, does it offer any advantage to making cuts on a pistol that's already legal? Like an SP-01. This is really the only "big deal" for CO. Its easier to find certain guns and make them make weight by cutting them. Stock III, maybe Stock II, Shadow 2. Or aftermarket Glock slides with the "window" cut in the top. The trigger rule makes all the aftermarket Glock triggers legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 14 hours ago, kipdynamite said: Other than doing slide cuts to get a Shadow 2 or a Stock II to make weight, does it offer any advantage to making cuts on a pistol that's already legal? Like an SP-01. Fyi, I shot a stock 2 9mm with a dovetail mounted vortex (zero slide cutting) and was at 44.6oz. Milling the slide to mount the dot makes weight easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I want slide cuts in my Stock ll, who does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Legat in CO? 21.6 allows aftermarket slide stops, and the "old book" wording prohibiting thumb rests is gone------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Its legal from what I can see, I posted a similar comment in another topic… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviSS Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 So, since there's just a maximum weight listed does that mean that frame weights, grip weights, etc are legal as long as it's under weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstamper Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, LeviSS said: So, since there's just a maximum weight listed does that mean that frame weights, grip weights, etc are legal as long as it's under weight? That is a grey area. There is a section in the CO gun rules that says that just because something is not listed does not by default make it legal by its absence. (rather circular but that is the gist of what it says) The rules also say that if you are called on a condition / legality of your weapon YOU have to show a SPECIFIC rule that allows your modification. If you can't then the modification is ruled illegal and a decision will be made as to how or if you are allowed to continue in the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunDQ Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I don’t care about carry optics changing these rules... it’s not production. They already have 25 rounds starts with the 140mm mags. Cool. Okay. Slide lighting? cool. Thumb rests? Check. Cool They have to make it a real division. They have had a national championship in it a few times. Hopefully this will bring some sick ass customized cooler guns. Why not? Okay. Figured. Check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstamper Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 3 hours ago, 3gunDQ said: They have to make it a real division. CO is now a real division. At this meeting it was voted to take it out of PROVISIONAL. They did that with CO and PCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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