IsaacB Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Hello internet, I am looking to dabble in 40 minor. I'd like to just swap the bullet and keep the change the same. Right now I am running: 180gr Blue Bullet 4.2gr Titegroup 1.14 OAL and getting 961 fps (173pf) out of a 5inch barrel Any ideas on where to start to get a good cartridge that meets minor pf with the same charge and OAL? I'd like to stick with the Blue Bullets, but don't know that going from 180gr to 165gr would add up to much a difference. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 It will, but not much my load data shows 165 blue bullet over 4.4 of titegroup gave me a 160pf thru a 6” barrel maybe you should look for the lightest bullet you can find and try that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mont1120 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Rainier makes a 135 grain that I am using in .40 Open, not too bad a cost. Nosler makes 135 grn also, but at a much higher cost. The difference between 180 and 135 should lower your PF enough to be noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigzeke Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Loading 4.3gr TG under a 180gr coated bullet has me at 177ish PF. Just for fun I grabbed some 155gr SWC and didn’t change anything. Same OAL and charge. Ran fine but was still at 155ish PF. I couldn’t feel a recoil difference unless I was really trying to. I was trying it for a cost savings as the 155s are about 1.5 cents cheaper a piece and work great for steel challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacB Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 These are great data points. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 My major load was 3.7gr e3 under a 180gr plated bullet for 172PF. For Steel Challenge I substituted a 135gr Rainier. It is barely minor. As an example of what to expect, here is a bullet ladder I did when working up a load for SC. Rainier plated bullets, 3.3gr e3 powder and CCI 500 primer. 135gr, 109PF. 155gr, 131PF. 165gr, 140PF. 180gr, 158PF. I am currently loading 3.2gr e3 under the 155. It makes minor and feels the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I swap out 200 gr Bayou's with 4.1grs WST at 1.180 with 140 Bayou's every thing else the same. for SC no sight adjustment. it hits about an inch to the right if I recall. Lately just been shooting my major load for everything cause I ran out of 140's and never reordered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I did that for years. using tight group and WST under precision black bullets.. I loaded to 170 pf with 180's then simply swapped to a 155 grain bullet. I think I got around 145pf which was light enough, but strong enough to run my guns without having to change springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 With a Bayou 200 coated rn 3.6 clys gives 860 f/s 172pf, same load with a Bayou 140 coated tc gives 930 f/s 130pf. 4.2 titegroup with a 140 should be around 960-1000 f/s 135-140pf, only way to know is try them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixfella58 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 My major load is 4.0 WST with Bayou 200 gr coated for a PF of 172. Same load with a Bayou 165 gr coated gives me a PF of 143. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacB Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Thanks everyone. I forgot that I had a $50 certificate to Bayou from a prize table last year. Ordered some 140gr bullets and will see if there's an appreciable difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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