twister Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I'm loading 2.7 Bullseye with a hollow base wad cutter, and I have a ton of lead after shooting 120 rounds. What can I change so I don't have to spend an hour cleaning the gun after a session at the range? Thanks for help on this, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWP Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 How much crimp are you using? Coated, plated, jacketed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 Very small crimp on a lead 148gr. hollow base wadcutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Use coated, plated or fmj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, revoman said: Use coated, plated or fmj. I shot the same load for years in PPC, with a hard cast WC bullet sized to my gun. Try .001 or .002 larger bullet and it MAY reduce your problem. Or as said above go with coated, I DID on all my bullets including for open major loads and don't have any leading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 coat your bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 9 hours ago, jcc7x7 said: I shot the same load for years in PPC, with a hard cast WC bullet sized to my gun. Try .001 or .002 larger bullet and it MAY reduce your problem. Or as said above go with coated, I DID on all my bullets including for open major loads and don't have any leading Me too but 2.8gr/Bullseye. Try harder bullets. I found lots of leading with the soft bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrswanson1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Load the last round with blackpowder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceball Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) First up what cases are you using? After you sized and flare a care seat a projectile to the correct depth. Then knock it out. Compare the size of the projectile to a new one. Measure a couple of places for each one. Like the top, mid section and hollow base section. If the projectile is smaller than a new one the cases are sizing the projectile. You will need an oversized full length expander. Not the ones that come with standard dies. Edited January 5, 2018 by Spaceball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 You're not using a Lee Factory Crimp die are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Spaceball, I’m using mixed brass, where can I get an oversized full length expander? I’ve never heard of this. PatJones, I’m using a RCBS taper crimp die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longbarrel Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hey twister, I use mixed brass and full wad cutters quite often. Mine are mostly plain ole swaged lead ones. I seat to full depth or nearly so and roll crimp just a little. I run them about 700 fps or so. I get very little leading. You may not have enough bullet lube on your wadcutters. Maybe your taper crimp is squeezing a little too much. I do prefer harder cast bullets in my revolvers when shooting speedier loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Longbarrel, my wadcutters are staged, running 700fps, they’re lubed from Zero. I’m just putting a slight crimp on the bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I always used a slight roll crimp. The bullet was seated just below the case neck and the roll crimp applied. It also helped with the reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 RePete, mine don’t have near that much crimp, and they are loaded flush with the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I'm using 3.2gr bullseye and I have 0 leading after 500 rounds, but I'm using Blue Bullets which are polymer coated. I know there are methods out there to coat your own, but I'm not familiar with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 Swordfish, what blue bullet are you using? I’d like to use a full wadcutter if there’s one available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Is there a constriction where the barrel passes thru the frame? If the barrel torques up too tight to the frame, it constricts the barrel where it threads into the revolver. I had a Colt that had a tight spot in front of the forcing cone that always leaded, never been happier to see a revolver go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 15 hours ago, twister said: RePete, mine don’t have near that much crimp, and they are loaded flush with the case. When I set my dies up, I used the factory Federal and Winchester match ammo for the crimp. And Remington have about the same crimp from the ammo I have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 23 hours ago, PatJones said: You're not using a Lee Factory Crimp die are you? ??? A problem with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 another area to look at is the forcing cone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 I’m thinking about shooting the full wadcutters, then cleaning my gun with a cylinder full of jacketed Bullets! Did this at the range yesterday and it seemed to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, twister said: I’m thinking about shooting the full wadcutters, then cleaning my gun with a cylinder full of jacketed Bullets! Did this at the range yesterday and it seemed to work. Not a good idea. All you will accomplish is burnishing the lead into the rifling. If it is that bad, use Sweets 7.62 cleaner and make sure you read the instruction first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 ??? A problem with that?Yes. I don't like to resize my .358 diameter lead bullets smaller after I seat then in the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I’m thinking about shooting the full wadcutters, then cleaning my gun with a cylinder full of jacketed Bullets! Did this at the range yesterday and it seemed to work.Do you shoot jacketed and lead bullets out of the same gun without cleaning in between? That could be your problem. Copper fouling attracts lead. I remove all traces of copper with solvents before shooting lead. It's a pain, so I just generally avoid jacketed bullets. A friend of mine shot 1 cylinder of jacketed bullets thru my 44 mag, and it started leading badly with my loads that had never leaded before. I cleaned it thoroughly and the problem went away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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