RevolverJockey Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Looking to get back into USPSA and trying to figure out which division to shoot. What is the strength of the revolver division? I am about to move cross country and I would hate to invest in a competition centered revolver and get all geared up again if Limited 8 Minor was still in life support. Sorry for such a pointed, glum question, but does revolver have a future with the advent of PPC, Carry Optics and all the things that have happened since I have been away? Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Whenever I attend a match, for the past ten years, it's tough to find three people shooting revolver, SS or Ltd 10. Everybody, for the past ten years, shoots Prod, Ltd or Open. How long have you been gone? Was it any better when you used to shoot Rev? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 We've got a 35-40 monthly ICORE match 3-6 at USPSA It's the guys like me "OH I haven't shot my 929/627 in a while" type of thing It's still the most fun to shoot and since I'm still not making my living shooting I figure might as well enjoy what I do on the weekends. Up to each of us how and at what level of commitment uspsa is. Summary: shoot limited or open if you want to be in a crowd of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Whenever I attend a match, for the past ten years, it's tough to find three people shooting revolver, SS or Ltd 10. Everybody, for the past ten years, shoots Prod, Ltd or Open. How long have you been gone? Was it any better when you used to shoot Rev? About 3 or 4 years. Back then, out of say 35 shooters at a local match, we would have 2 to maybe 4 revolver shooters. SC was a different story where there might be 7-10 out of 50 entries. I made B class shooting 6 minor before the 8 shot rule change, but not everyone wanted to make the investment to stay competitive so when I got a .38 super 8 shot, I ended up shooting it in Production. I loved shooting shooting revolver, but I have a few Glocks and a production or limited rig, a PCC... I guess i am I am just nervous to spend $1,500+ to get back into revolver when even the forum doesn't seem as active as I remember. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushki25 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I have only seen a revolver a few times shooting a uspsa match locally. Both of those guys have moved onto limited. I just looked at the match breakdown for the WI sectional and there is exactly one guy shooting revolver. Revolver appears dead in WI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 I think siphoning people off other divisions to shoot revolver is going to be a challenge as the initial cost is somewhat steep. What I don't understand is why revolver people don't shoot revolvers. A prime example is James Austin - die hard revolver shooter, has 5 USPSA clubs within about an hour of home, regularly shoots falling plate matches at these clubs, wouldn't think twice about going out of state for an ICORE match, and probably has more competition revolvers than I have fingers and yet I have NEVER shot a USPSA match with him. What is it that we don't have that keeps people interested? Is it just an aging technology that people are losing interest in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 There is only one revolver shooter I've seen on a regular basis at nearby matches. He seems to have fun. Definitely not a growing division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synchronicity Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I am just getting started with IDPA and USPSA with my 625 in 45acp. I am having fun and that is all that matters. Of course, starting at 60 means that I will never be fast anyway. So it is ALL about the FUN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWP Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 8 hours ago, RevolverJockey said: I think siphoning people off other divisions to shoot revolver is going to be a challenge as the initial cost is somewhat steep. What I don't understand is why revolver people don't shoot revolvers. A prime example is James Austin - die hard revolver shooter, has 5 USPSA clubs within about an hour of home, regularly shoots falling plate matches at these clubs, wouldn't think twice about going out of state for an ICORE match, and probably has more competition revolvers than I have fingers and yet I have NEVER shot a USPSA match with him. What is it that we don't have that keeps people interested? Is it just an aging technology that people are losing interest in? There are two top GMs in your area Lee, and James Austin is still around I think, just not shooting as much USPSA anymore. It's tough to shoot club matches regularly without competition, but they're there, not far from you. If you like it, get the gear and do it. Go to icore, and uspsa and steel matches. So many people say they want to do it and don't, most are just scared to actually do it though. Set the time aside for the IRC, USPSA Revo Nats, and the Steel Challenge. Plenty of revos at those matches. You only live once, might as well do all those things you want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan454 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 It's my favorite division and all I shoot in USPSA anymore. Same for Steel and IDPA matches, always a revolver. We actually had a record turnout at our club's ICORE match on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjkelso Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I think most guys shy away from revolver because it is perceived to be too difficult. Revolver division shoots slower than the flat gun divisions and guys want to go fast. At the match I frequent there may be as many as 125 shooters. Sometimes I am the only revo guy sometimes there are a half dozen of us. Since I started shooting my 627 in January I have received many compliments and a great deal of encouragement from all my shooting buddies and strangers alike. It has been fun and challenging. More guys will try revo when they see others dedicated to it and shooting it well. Many who shoot USPSA ask themselves "what should I shoot?" instead of "what do I want to shoot?" and end up shooting in a division, with a particular gun, for the wrong reasons. When/if they struggle they spend their energy on fixes instead of shooting and having fun. I want to have fun, shooting my revo is fun for me. Shoot your .38 super eight shot and have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 On 8/27/2017 at 9:36 AM, RevolverJockey said: I think siphoning people off other divisions to shoot revolver is going to be a challenge as the initial cost is somewhat steep. +1 Both in $'s and time spent in unique skill development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 On 8/29/2017 at 2:40 PM, rjkelso said: I think most guys shy away from revolver because it is perceived to be too difficult. This is objectively true in the sense that a) its a double action pull every single time and b). reloading is a whole thing and you need to do it every 8 bangs... Its also objectively false because every division is hard to be competitive in,like really hard, because USPSA is difficult to be really good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjkelso Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I agree seanc. I think most guys don't realize they would be as good shooting a revolver as they are shooting in any other division, if they put in the time and energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, rjkelso said: I agree seanc. I think most guys don't realize they would be as good shooting a revolver as they are shooting in any other division, if they put in the time and energy. I very stupidly and probably arrogantly believed for a (very)brief period I would be at least a little bit "better" shooting an auto. I'm not. With an auto, all the shooting and gun handling is just that much faster across the board, for everyone. You are the shooter you are within a couple percent either way, the division hardly matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 39 minutes ago, seanc said: I very stupidly and probably arrogantly believed for a (very)brief period I would be at least a little bit "better" shooting an auto. I'm not. With an auto, all the shooting and gun handling is just that much faster across the board, for everyone. You are the shooter you are within a couple percent either way, the division hardly matters. ive seen you shoot both, you just miss faster with an auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, alecmc said: ive seen you shoot both, you just miss faster with an auto. word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWP Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Stay tuned Sean, I'm about to test this theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADulay Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 On 8/29/2017 at 2:40 PM, rjkelso said: I think most guys shy away from revolver because it is perceived to be too difficult. Revolver division shoots slower than the flat gun divisions and guys want to go fast. At the match I frequent there may be as many as 125 shooters. Sometimes I am the only revo guy sometimes there are a half dozen of us. Since I started shooting my 627 in January I have received many compliments and a great deal of encouragement from all my shooting buddies and strangers alike. It has been fun and challenging. More guys will try revo when they see others dedicated to it and shooting it well. Many who shoot USPSA ask themselves "what should I shoot?" instead of "what do I want to shoot?" and end up shooting in a division, with a particular gun, for the wrong reasons. When/if they struggle they spend their energy on fixes instead of shooting and having fun. I want to have fun, shooting my revo is fun for me. Shoot your .38 super eight shot and have fun. That just about sums it up nicely. AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, MWP said: Stay tuned Sean, I'm about to test this theory. which part? about being basically the same regardless of the gun? I mean, you are a alien/mutant so who knows. You are not going to immediately be as good with an auto as you are with a revolver because you are the best in the world with a revolver right now. You aren't are going to beat JJ and max with a 2011 without some serious time, years, spent practicing. I DO think you can definitely classify GM in any division though without to much work... My opinion, this will surely twist some into knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Phil Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, MWP said: Stay tuned Sean, I'm about to test this theory. Perhaps at the East Coast Steel Challenge? Perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWP Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Dr. Phil said: Perhaps at the East Coast Steel Challenge? Perhaps? Yep, mailed 9mm that won't go bang in a revo, so it looks like I'm not bringing revos. Steel Challenge is the most pure form of shooting I think. Switching divisions in USPSA means completely switching games. Comparing steel times should give a shooter a direct idea of what they are capable of, not the gun. Of course, time spent on that gun is applicable, so I might actually be slower... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Phil Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Maybe I will see you Sat morning... Good luck with that bottom feeder!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, MWP said: Yep, mailed 9mm that won't go bang in a revo, so it looks like I'm not bringing revos. Steel Challenge is the most pure form of shooting I think. Switching divisions in USPSA means completely switching games. Comparing steel times should give a shooter a direct idea of what they are capable of, not the gun. Of course, time spent on that gun is applicable, so I might actually be slower... Good luck, you will do well regardless but am curious how your time will compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunDQ Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Run what you brung! You wanna shoot revo? Have at it! There are two regulars at our local match and one is a GM. He is an old school GM from way back and he shoots revo now. He is damn good too. Other guy is a really nice gentleman that enjoys himself and has a great time shooting his revolver. I'd love to try it but the last thing I need is another gun and caliber to load for.... another holster/belt/rig setup, moon clips, the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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