Apolo Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I have a few questions about this build. I'd like to build one my self in the near future. I'm hoping the owner or builder could answer a few questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I don't know who built it, but I'll bet I can answer your questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 5 hours ago, kneelingatlas said: I don't know who built it, but I'll bet I can answer your questions. I'm really happy you chimed in. I was actually going to message you before I made this post. What barrel and comp is used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Apolo said: I'm really happy you chimed in. I was actually going to message you before I made this post. What barrel and comp is used? The comp is similar to the Czechmate comp, but slightly different, so I suspect it's custom; the barrel looks like it comes from a Tactical Sport. The racker looks like the one from a Czechmate, but the dovetail on the Shadow is larger than the one on the Czechmate, so I'd bet it's custom too. Edited July 22, 2017 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 Pm sent to Atlas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 I'd like to see some pictures or examples of other builds as well. I'd like any info I can get. I did dig into the open CZ thread here on enos, but most of the pictures are no longer available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohsevenflhx Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 The bottom of the frame by the muzzle has a picatinny rail. It's not on a TS or CM frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, ohsevenflhx said: The bottom of the frame by the muzzle has a picatinny rail. It's not on a TS or CM frame. It's not. It's built from a SP01 shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 13 hours ago, kneelingatlas said: I don't know who built it, but I'll bet I can answer your questions. Yes he can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 On 7/22/2017 at 9:44 PM, eerw said: Yes he can Yup. Messaging. Still trying to figure out comp route. I'm thinking it needs to be clocked and held with extended guide rod and not thread locker as the CZ barrel cannot come out the front like a 2011. This limits options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 On 7/22/2017 at 3:27 PM, kneelingatlas said: The comp is similar to the Czechmate comp, but slightly different, so I suspect it's custom; the barrel looks like it comes from a Tactical Sport. The racker looks like the one from a Czechmate, but the dovetail on the Shadow is larger than the one on the Czechmate, so I'd bet it's custom too. I used a Czechmate racker on my sp-01 shadow open build. By using a longer set screw you can push the racker up into the dovetail making it tight but would probably be best to add some material to the bottom, tho mine is just held in with some loctite on the longer set screw and hasn't moved yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Is this your build thompson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 No sir that one is not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towely Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) https://www.gunsupplies.co.nz/products/firearms/pistols/new-pistols/cz75b-gbc-darkside-open-class-pistol-9mm-major That link probably wont be of much help to you but it contains pics and info. I have to click on it a couple of times before it takes me to the correct page but it maybbe my browser playing up. Edited July 26, 2017 by Towely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I have some experience with open uppers for CZs. IMO, it is a mistake to rely on the threads and an extended guide rod to keep the comp clocked. That is exactly how I first did it, and the results were horrible. Your only chance for good results using that approach is to may almost 100% engagement in the threads. I had new threads cut on the barrel and had threaded tool steel bushings made for the comps. That tightened things up a lot, but not enough for me. I used Blue Loctite on the comp and accuracy improved to same hole groups at 15 yards. BTW, I also had a tool steel bushing made for the barrel while I was at it. Blue Loctite will last for at least an entire match. I used it without primer, and just let it sit for 24 hours before using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkadi Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) Custom cone comp or a transfer cone adapter for bull barrel comp. 1/2" 28 barrel thread. Red Loctite 272, no primer. http://na.henkel-adhesives.com/product-search-1554.htm?nodeid=8797710254081 Make barrel warm with torch or heat gun so that glue viscosity is reduced at application time. Then be quick Its best to cut the frame - less weight and no workarounds on the comp. 1,200g w/o mag. Edited July 26, 2017 by arkadi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 9 hours ago, arkadi said: Custom cone comp or a transfer cone adapter for bull barrel comp. 1/2" 28 barrel thread. Red Loctite 272, no primer. http://na.henkel-adhesives.com/product-search-1554.htm?nodeid=8797710254081 Make barrel warm with torch or heat gun so that glue viscosity is reduced at application time. Then be quick Its best to cut the frame - less weight and no workarounds on the comp. 1,200g w/o mag. What an awesome pair arkadi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkadi Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Thank you! I suppose a CZ Open gun HowTo is in the pipeline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtaylor07 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Or......Canik open gun? Convinced my friend to put a Cajun hammer kit in and remove the fpb, trigger is better than the TSO I tried, and probably a tick better than the Czechmate. Not too shabby for a sub $400 gun. Got everything figured out except for the comp piece, but if someone were to be a guinea pig...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 Those are awesome. Sorry I haven't gotten back sooner. I think canik has a ported barrel gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 On 7/26/2017 at 2:11 PM, arkadi said: Custom cone comp or a transfer cone adapter for bull barrel comp. 1/2" 28 barrel thread. Red Loctite 272, no primer. http://na.henkel-adhesives.com/product-search-1554.htm?nodeid=8797710254081 Make barrel warm with torch or heat gun so that glue viscosity is reduced at application time. Then be quick Its best to cut the frame - less weight and no workarounds on the comp. 1,200g w/o mag. Just sweet. Who made the comp? You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtaylor07 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Apolo said: Those are awesome. Sorry I haven't gotten back sooner. I think canik has a ported barrel gun? None of the 75 variants do, similar or identical barrel situation to a regular 75 so the challenge of finding a good comp would be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 10 hours ago, arkadi said: Thank you! I suppose a CZ Open gun HowTo is in the pipeline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 3 hours ago, gtaylor07 said: None of the 75 variants do, similar or identical barrel situation to a regular 75 so the challenge of finding a good comp would be the same. I believe the Shark FC does. I don't think it is very easy to come by. Would be a cool toy. I'd still build off a original CZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 6 hours ago, gtaylor07 said: Or......Canik open gun? Convinced my friend to put a Cajun hammer kit in and remove the fpb, trigger is better than the TSO I tried, and probably a tick better than the Czechmate. Not too shabby for a sub $400 gun. Got everything figured out except for the comp piece, but if someone were to be a guinea pig...... The Canik uses a barrel similar to the 75, so at one point I was tempted to fit a 6" CZ barrel to one, but decided the stumpy beaver tail was a deal breaker. The comp would be easy if you used a 6" barrel: just cut it, thread it 1/2X28 and use a Glock comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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