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K or L frame for an open build


Stevenb

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had a go recently at action match and am interested in shooting it some more. I'm looking at picking up either a K frame (mod 19) or a L frame (686).

I can pick up a K frame for about half the price of a 686 already worked over for service pistol, would the 686 be worth the extra?

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Better off buying something already built for open. Mover mount, barricade wings, action job, after market barrel and big butt style grip will cost $'s - so a few bucks saved on a K frame against a more durable L frame will soon be lost if you are building up a gun.

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I would go with the 686 because it has a more durable frame and you can get a 7 round cylinder for it. The 7 round cylinder is a little added insurance, that's nice to have for a light strike or trigger clutch. Also have the cylinder cut for moon clips, not for speed loading but for organization.

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L frame. K frames and L frames have the same grip frame. K frames' bores are closer to the yoke than L frames, which means there is less steel on the bottom of the barrel. This makes it likely they will split over time.

I had a K frame open gun for a few years. It finally split so I couldn't open the cylinder on the Mover at the Cameron Cup. I was lucky the frame hadn't split, too. Warren and I have seen that happen even on PPC guns running bunny fart loads.

-Tracy

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What Tracy said.

I have a K frame because of what Solvability said (IMO) but only shoot lead or coated bullets through it. If you shoot jacketed rounds and pump up the speed, the K frames are prone to cracking at the forcing cone.

I do love a K frame tho!

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I'll ask around the local clubs that shoot it. they also come up infrequently on usedguns.com.au. Found one last night for the right money built on a mod 10 (or 64 as it is stainless)

Once funds permit I would like to get an auto built on a 1911, but for now

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it's at my dealer, just waiting on my permit to acquire to arrive. I've got a Ultradot Matchdot II to replace the Tasco 2x scope ready and waiting. I'm thinking I'll need to order a PD stick shift for it once I get some more funds. 

Also couldn't help myself and picked up another 686.

better pics once I actually get them in my safe.

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picked up the 586 open gun yesterday (I'm a bit slack and didn't get any extra photos)

 

It is a 586 no dash frame, blueing has worn in some spots and there is a little surface rust on one spot on the cylinder. The rail it has on it (a Tasco rail) is a bit short for the matchdot II to mount with 2 scope rings, so currently have it mounted up with a single ring in the front. I'm hoping that the holes for the rail won't interfere with putting either a Weigand rail on it or a stick-shift. The barrel is also over/under rotated as the barricade wings are noticeably not level. I'll be dropping it off to a gunsmith in a few weeks hopefully to give it a once over. For the price I got it I'm happy and it will get me into NRA Action Pistol.

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On September 1, 2016 at 6:16 AM, Stevenb said:

it's at my dealer, just waiting on my permit to acquire to arrive. I've got a Ultradot Matchdot II to replace the Tasco 2x scope ready and waiting. I'm thinking I'll need to order a PD stick shift for it once I get some more funds. 

Also couldn't help myself and picked up another 686.

better pics once I actually get them in my safe.

586.jpg

686.JPG

Congratulations, nice finds!

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picked up the other one, a 686-3, it also came with a 2nd sight rib which has a weaver rail and a machined recess that looks like where you would grip the barrel and has a barricade wing that can be bolted on, so a pleasant surprise there.

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9 hours ago, Stevenb said:

Had some luck and jagged a brand new Stick Shift from another Aussie who bought it to build an open revo. Just need someone to screw it all together for me (and sort out the barrel)

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Score! Looks like it's coming together.

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wich barrel do you guys prefer? SS or carbon steel?

 

I've bought a lathe with all the material to build myself a PPC revolver , the only barrels available here are Lothar Walther. They offer SS and carbon, normal land/grooves or polygonal rifling. Most current (european)revolvers that I see all use stainless polygonal rifling

 

can choose between 1/10 and 1/17 twist, I prefer the 1/10 for the HBWC...

 

I have a mill to so I can perform al the work myself

 

gr T

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