warpspeed Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I have not settled on a powder for 77s. But, I have found, in general that I tend to use faster powders than a lot of others. I have been playing with TAC and a few others now that I have the 55s and 69s dialed in. Varget is just too slow for me.Where are you finding Tac? I haven't found it in stock for over a year Midsouth for one ; http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00079TAC/Ramshot-TAC-Smokeless-Rifle-Powder-(1-Lb) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Powder Valley has had TAC on and off. I use a 15" handguard. But if you have long arms, a hand stop might be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan45kim Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Hi Mark so what powders have you found work best with 55 gr and 69 gr in the stretch 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minicz Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Tony, you gonna shoot ASC this weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJW Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 What length handguard is everyone running with this barrel? Also any particular comp better suited for it? Mine is getting an SLR Solo Ultralite 14" handguard and a Carbon Arms Gas Hog comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellymc Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 CJW I was wondering if you already have some experience with the CAGH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Hi Mark so what powders have you found work best with 55 gr and 69 gr in the stretch 16 The loads that shot well in my 18" Nordic shoot the same or slightly better in the Stretch16. I mostly use TAC and AA2200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan45kim Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Thanks Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJW Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I was wondering if you already have some experience with the CAGH? Nope, I am just taking a leap of faith on this one. I squadded with somebody at FNH who had shot both a Titan and a Gas Hog, and he thought the CAGH was very comparable to the Titan in performance. If that's true, I will be very happy... I am one step closer to having a new upper. I finally got the socket driver adapter I needed to fit my 3/8" torque wrench on the 1/2" drive SLR barrel nut wrench, so I now have a Stretch-16 attached to an upper! Next comes the gas block, and it should all be smooth sailing after that. I am hoping to have it assembled for zeroing this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellymc Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Thanks Heard some good things also. Just waiting for Marks end of summer 1/2 price sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Thanks Heard some good things also. Just waiting for Marks end of summer 1/2 price sale. ? Can't wait for that one! Hope I don't miss it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louu Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I was wondering if you already have some experience with the CAGH? Nope, I am just taking a leap of faith on this one. I squadded with somebody at FNH who had shot both a Titan and a Gas Hog, and he thought the CAGH was very comparable to the Titan in performance. If that's true, I will be very happy... I am one step closer to having a new upper. I finally got the socket driver adapter I needed to fit my 3/8" torque wrench on the 1/2" drive SLR barrel nut wrench, so I now have a Stretch-16 attached to an upper! Next comes the gas block, and it should all be smooth sailing after that. I am hoping to have it assembled for zeroing this weekend. I'm sure you already know this but just in case I'm gona leave this here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJW Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) I'm sure you already know this but just in case I'm gona leave this here. Yeah, I just go with right angle myself, though you did make me go back and look at the math. So, the extra length of a barrel nut wrench can only serve to increase applied torque. Given that for most barrel nuts, a range of something like 30–80lb.ft. is good, does this really turn into an issue on AR barrels? I mean, the worst you are going to do with a couple inches of extension is overtorque by 5–10lb.ft., which hardly seems like a problem. On the SLR, my written instructions said 45lb.ft., though I just went back to their web site and their new instructional video says 35. Huh. Well, I guess my barrel nut won't fall off, at least! Edited September 9, 2015 by CJW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 CJW, try 35 pounds and shoot a cold group then a hot group. Then torque to 75 pounds and shoot a cold group then a hot group. You might be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop414 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 For us non engineers, is it better on the lower end or higher end of torque? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 FWIW I torqued mine to 70 lbs, and I can't discern a difference between the hot and cold groups. Why 70 you ask? Because I figured if 35 was good, double that must be way better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 For us non engineers, is it better on the lower end or higher end of torque? For most systems, the high end usually results in better accuracy and less shift from hot to cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Mark, couple questions about making accurate 223 loads. Is it important to get the headspace of the loaded brass to a certain length number shorter than the fired cases from your particular gun? Is getting the loaded cases 0.003" shorter than fired the ticket? Same question re: free-bore on bullet seat depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 If you are talking 3Gun, I size my cases to the standards and do not worry much about the techniques we use for the best precision. A dirty chamber and a round that goes click costs more than going from 1/2MOA to 1/3 MOA ever will. I have two ARs (one in .223 and one in 6.5PCC) I load for precision, and yes, I do play with the case length and distance off the lands, but I get that brass back and I don't shoot it in matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59Bassman Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Bringing up a necro thread, but I ordered my fluted melonite this evening. I've got a hankering for a 16" 3 gun rifle build and this barrel seemed to be the ticket. My current 3-gun rifle has a Nordic 18", looking forward to the comparison in shooting. The nordic is very, very smooth shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Bringing up a necro thread, but I ordered my fluted melonite this evening. I've got a hankering for a 16" 3 gun rifle build and this barrel seemed to be the ticket. My current 3-gun rifle has a Nordic 18", looking forward to the comparison in shooting. The nordic is very, very smooth shooting. I'd be interested in your comparisons between those two. I hope that you enjoy the new barrel. I'm excited about the 308 Win version of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59Bassman Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Bringing up a necro thread, but I ordered my fluted melonite this evening. I've got a hankering for a 16" 3 gun rifle build and this barrel seemed to be the ticket. My current 3-gun rifle has a Nordic 18", looking forward to the comparison in shooting. The nordic is very, very smooth shooting. I'd be interested in your comparisons between those two. I hope that you enjoy the new barrel. I'm excited about the 308 Win version of the same. Thanks! I'm pretty stoked. I decided that this one would be a no-compromise gun, so instead of a MTAC 1-4, I plan on going with a Vortex Razor 1-6. Mount will be a Bobro instead of a PEPR. Trigger will be a Geissele SD-3G flat instead of a CMC 3.5 Flat. Still somewhat undecided on a muzzle device. Receiver set should be picked up this coming week - an Aero set in FDE. Never had a "color" gun before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louu Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Bringing up a necro thread, but I ordered my fluted melonite this evening. I've got a hankering for a 16" 3 gun rifle build and this barrel seemed to be the ticket. My current 3-gun rifle has a Nordic 18", looking forward to the comparison in shooting. The nordic is very, very smooth shooting. I'd be interested in your comparisons between those two. I hope that you enjoy the new barrel. I'm excited about the 308 Win version of the same. Thanks! I'm pretty stoked. I decided that this one would be a no-compromise gun, so instead of a MTAC 1-4, I plan on going with a Vortex Razor 1-6. Mount will be a Bobro instead of a PEPR. Trigger will be a Geissele SD-3G flat instead of a CMC 3.5 Flat. Still somewhat undecided on a muzzle device. Receiver set should be picked up this coming week - an Aero set in FDE. Never had a "color" gun before. Sounds like it's going to be a great rifle. I have the fluted melonite Stretch 16 and love it. I was thinking about using the Nordic 18 but glad I went with the Stretch. Looking forward to your comparison and good luck with the new assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 should be a great build. I like the Dynamic Research or the Seekins on the muzzle, myself. Or the Carbon Arms Gas Hog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseImage Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Bringing up a necro thread, but I ordered my fluted melonite this evening. I've got a hankering for a 16" 3 gun rifle build and this barrel seemed to be the ticket. My current 3-gun rifle has a Nordic 18", looking forward to the comparison in shooting. The nordic is very, very smooth shooting.You will love the barrel. Last year I ran the Nordic 18 and this year the Stretch16. I think the Stretch may be a little softer shooting. I prefer the DPMS Miculek comp ... The dot of my Razor 1-6 just vibrates on target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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