Nik Habicht Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Jake, "Because I can and it'll be fun AND hard work" sound like good reasons to me....... Not to mention --- anything that motivates one to dry-fire is good IMHO...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Come to think of it. I can't remember the last time I did a proper El Pres on the range. So I'll never really know what it takes to pull a a 3sec run. But I know this, it only takes one to believe. Go for it Jake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 In Robbie Leatham's Gun Games interview, there's a segment where he talks about the El Prez, and comments on how the best shooters in the world at the time could now do it in the sub-4s. Then he says, "I'm not going to say no one will ever do it in sub-3. Because I can write out on paper what it would take." I would hazard a guess Robbie's list wouldn't have looked too different from Jake's. And if you look at that list, taken individually there's nothing there that couldn't be done by a really good shooter. The challenge is simply to hook them all together at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 There was an article on the TGO series of guns with some TGO stories, in American Rifleman, and the author said he asked Robbie to run El Prez after a demo he was doing. I think I remember him saying he ran it cold at 4.0, and that two or three more runs netted something down around 3.60, all were clean and I think he said the 4.0 was 60 points. Anyone else read this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmshtr Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 It's funny that the last time this stage was even in a Nationals was at the 2002 Factory Nationals. What's even funnier is to look at the results of Stage 10. Again, consistency is the most important thing. Anyone who could do a 4.5 clean on demand would've won that stage by a landslide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Anyone else read this? I did, though I have a vague memory the magazine wasn't American Rifleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 i want to see a 2.95 run with 60 pts, at a major match.. Nothing stopping you. I never have been much for goal setting and I suppose that's a weakness. However, when I do set a goal I set one that is realistic and achievable. I would be delusional to think I could do a 3 second El Pres. in this life time. OTOH, if Jake thinks the goal is realistic for him, well he should go for it. Good luck Jake. Hope to read about it in Front Sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
short_round Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Go for it Jake! ... what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalmas Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Impossible today is tomorrow's standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierruiggi Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Impossible today is tomorrow's standard. Well sir, that is just about the best phrase I've heard in a long time. Simple, concise, and the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Not to mention that it is often... ...the journey, not the destination. Anybody that pushes toward a goal like this will certainly learn quite a bit about thier shooting along the path. (If nothing else...we have over 60 posts with various shooters beating the idea around..that has got to be good for something.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 "Do or do not, there is no try." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 There's this story about a blind squirrel and a nut. How does that go again? It's certainly possible on paper. Do I think Jake can do it? Absolutely. There's as much skill involved in 60pt/2.99sec ElPrez as there is in winning the mega-millions jackpot. They're both possible. If someone won the lottery 3 out of 5 times I might start thinking skill was involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdj Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 There's as much skill involved in 60pt/2.99sec ElPrez as there is in winning the mega-millions jackpot. They're both possible. What about a > 24 point 2.99 second El Pres. That becomes a bit more possible in most people's minds, right? Then it's back into the skill (speed) range. Although if it is true that you can shoot A's as fast as you can shoot D's If some one can do it in < 3 seconds with no Mikes (i.e. no blind trigger pulling) then that would be the first step to proving a < 3 seconds with decent hits is feasible, no? Given that people have reported decent hits in 3.x seconds then I'm prepared to believe that some one (Jake) will be able to show us a video clip of a 3 second El Pres in the not too distant future. Not done cold, not done on demand but done once. I'm looking forward to seeing it! Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Nik Getting old is hell..... Get on the bandwagon...I did a 4.37 earlier last yr and my previous best was 6.2....Anderson will nag you till you do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Jake, it's like you to do this. Tear it up, fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4444 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 A 4.something with all A's or one or two down is pretty tough to beat. Last time I shot el prez was a while ago and I felt like a stud when I shot it in a smidge over 6 seconds with good hits. Good enough in the long run,,,,no,,,,best of my ability at that point in time,,,,yup. Pushing to get better yup. Good luck in the quest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 This is what it might look like... Dry fire 2.8 I did a bunch tonight at 2.8, with a not-so-great reaction time and finishing right on the par. If I can better the reaction time, 2.6-7 will be doable dry, giving us a .3 cushion for live fire. This will happen in the spring. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted February 2, 2005 Author Share Posted February 2, 2005 I got a dry fire video of a solid under 3 run, no way of posting it though. Nice job Anderson. My goal is to hit it before April. You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harm152 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Here's a sub 3 El Pres... sub 3 el pres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Here's a sub 3 El Pres... Cute pic. But dude, he needs two per target to qualify as an El Pres. Hey Steve, that's awesome. I'm willing to bet you'll be on the second target (after the reload) before the falling mag hits the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Steve, no offense, but are you reloading in that video? I'm trying to see a mag hit the ground but can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Steve, no offense, but are you reloading in that video?I'm trying to see a mag hit the ground but can't. Per his dryfire book, you don't need to have a mag in there except every once in a while to make sure you're hitting the button hard enough. Reason: who wants to pick up mags every damn time? Less time spent picking up mags = more time to dryfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRD Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Per the Dryfire Bible, he's likely starting without a mag in the gun, hitting the mag release and then loading a mag off the belt. Gonna have to get on that mag-release fast or you might have mags running into each other! - Gabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRD Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 DOH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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