PatJones Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Anyone here at nationals? It looks like minor won out over major. A lot of minor shooters at the top of the overall. Did it favor the 8-shots? The round counts looked low on most stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 It looks like the 625 is now obsolete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underlug Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 (edited) Anyone here at nationals? It looks like minor won out over major. A lot of minor shooters at the top of the overall. Did it favor the 8-shots? The round counts looked low on most stages. The round count/points were identical to the single stack match. What do you think? 8 shot arrays? I wonder if they even moved the targets. As to the 625 being dead, if it is not viable at an exclusively revolver match, it won't be at matches where revolver equality is not even a thought. Shannon Smith and Matt Griffin are top performers and their results speak for themselves. Revolver now needs two sub classes Edited May 5, 2014 by underlug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty45 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 It looks like the 625 is now obsolete Was there really any doubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 It looks like the 625 is now obsolete I really liked mine but I'm glad I parted ways with it recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leas327 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Looks like this will work out well for Smith & Wesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okorpheus Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Revolvers - major or minor isn't the most likely gun to win the one that starts in Miculek's holster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Revolvers - major or minor isn't the most likely gun to win the one that starts in Miculek's holster? Not the 2014 Nationals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avezorak Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 No major guns in the Top 20. Looks like capacity rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 What happened on stage 14,,,I saw a couple shooters zeroed the stage ? Congrats TGO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdpaz Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Anyone here at nationals? It looks like minor won out over major. A lot of minor shooters at the top of the overall. Did it favor the 8-shots? The round counts looked low on most stages. The round count/points were identical to the single stack match. What do you think? 8 shot arrays? I wonder if they even moved the targets. As to the 625 being dead, if it is not viable at an exclusively revolver match, it won't be at matches where revolver equality is not even a thought. Shannon Smith and Matt Griffin are top performers and their results speak for themselves. Revolver now needs two sub classes Why? Seriously, I don't see the need to keep 6 shot viable (and realistically, just the 625) if indeed is isn't. Very few people enjoyed shooting USPSA with a 6 shot revolver but now I'm seeing increased participation in revolver at local matches. For those few who feel that the weird mental math puzzle gymnastics required to shoot a 6 shot revolver in an average match are what defines Revolver Division, all I can say is that your approach wasn't bringing new revo shooters into a dying division but 8 shot minor is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 It looks like the 625 is now obsolete As to the 625 being dead, if it is not viable at an exclusively revolver match, it won't be at matches where revolver equality is not even a thought. Shannon Smith and Matt Griffin are top performers and their results speak for themselves. Revolver now needs two sub classes No major guns in the Top 20. Looks like capacity rules.And not a single person predicted this would be the outcome. Oh wait.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koppi Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Matt had a gun problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varminter22 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I kinda wish more top shooters would have shot Major. Doing a quick scan down the top 50 shooters, I see only one GM entered Major. I didn't count how many M class guys shot Major. But I see the M class fifth place finisher shot Major (and that ain't bad). Does that mean Major is still viable? Probably/maybe not. Having to perform an extra reload or two is a lot to overcome. But it would be nice to see a better balance of Maj/Min shooters. Wouldn't it be a better indicator? I bet we'll see many more opinions in the days to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGO Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 There are a couple reasons more of us shot minor 8 than major 6. First , it was easier. Less thinking and figuring how to make it work and second, it was better. There are places where having an extra shot or two could save the day. On another note , no one I talked to at the match shooting minor was lamenting the fact. They seem to want to shoot that gun. Many shooting major wished they had. Matt had troubles so the most viable major proponent wasn't able to really make a case for the platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 No major guns in the Top 20. Looks like capacity rules. Huh? I counted 3 in the top 20; Shannon Smith in 8th, Kenneth Ortbach at lucky 13 and Evgueni Koulechov in 19th. What I found interesting was the big gap to the next one, Steve Sweeney was the #4 major shooter in 40th. Beyond that things seem pretty even. Is this a matter of many of the better competitors simply being dedicated enough to revolvers to already have an 8 shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Pat, those aren't the final results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 No? What am I looking at then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 You're looking at interim results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 Fair enough, have the final results been posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowrider Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 (edited) I'm seeing one major gun in the top 21. There are two links to revo national results, the 2nd one has a post time of 8:03 PM so I assume it's final? The 625 is officially a relic... Edited May 5, 2014 by Shadowrider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 The 8:03 results are the finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snertley Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I will buy all your 625's for $50 and the 610's for $100 each just PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okorpheus Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Easy decision for the top shooters. If the vast majority of your shots are alphas then there is no downside to scoring minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 No major guns in the Top 20. Looks like capacity rules. Have any of you guys considered the possibility that it's the Top 20 shooters who rule? If you forced the Top 20 shooters to compete with 625s, and let everybody else shoot their 8-shots, how many of them do you think would drop out of the Top 20? There's no doubt this match favored the 8-shot, but not as much as everybody is making it sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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