wmetzler01 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Looking for some suggestions for dry firing without the gun. Here's the background: I'm on an airplane 50% of my work week and lugging my pistol or even an airsoft pistol get you a one way ticket to "additional security screening" - not fun... Packing the pistol for air travel is about as fun as watching a midget with a yo-yo... What I can bring with me without invoking the wrath of the TSA is my CoC and some resistance bands I use to improve my shoulder strength (bands go over my wrists, the middle of the band goes under one foot, and I clasp my hands like I'm holding my pistol in my normal shooting position - hold for 60 seconds for a solid burn). What can one use to improve trigger control and sight alignment? Thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 How about a red gun. One of those solid chunk of plastic pistol replicas used for retention training etc. ASP makes good ones. You can get most makes and even put a set of real sights on it. Here's mine..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Ha ha gangsta style.... Don't know why those pics rotated like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmetzler01 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 That's pretty cool - thanks for the suggestion! I'll check to see if the have a 2011 replica (1911 will be the fall back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFlowers Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 if you are going the same place every week, you can ship the "toy" to yourself at the hotel. If you travel all over, not sure how TSA will feel about a replica... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 No 2011 replicas. Asp and blue gun make 1911's Seeing as they are primarily for law enforcement firearms retention training only common duty platforms are produced. The 1911 grip angle and basic ergo setup will have to do. It will lack the weight of real gun regardless. But hey it's better than air gunning the lampshades in your hotel room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmetzler01 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Thanks for the input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 How about a SIRT gun? Has a self-resetting trigger, and it shouldn't unduly alert TSA since to a scanner its just batteries and a laser. (but I'm sure Next Level Training folks could confirm no travel carry-on issues) You'd have to deal with Glock form factor, but you'd get a lot of trigger control work and additionally could work mag changes with their weighted mags. If you go the blue gun route (for draw, sight picture, but no real trigger or mags), i have a 1911 blue gun you could have cheap, I no longer use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBunniFuFu Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 With a SiRT, Blue gun, or ASP you will not be allowed to carry on. Something something Replica of firearms. I have a SiRT that I throw in my luggage but get hassled if they run it through the xray. Either way I love the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) With a SiRT, Blue gun, or ASP you will not be allowed to carry on. Something something Replica of firearms. I have a SiRT that I throw in my luggage but get hassled if they run it through the xray. Hmm, ok, I hadn't tried yet, good to know. So maybe a potential market for a dry fire trainer, 007 Bond - Scaramanga style? (but self-resetting trigger, not single shot :-) http://www.yourprops.com/Scaramanga-Golden-Gun-replica-movie-prop-weapon-James-Bond-The-Man-With-The-Golden-Gun-1974-YP45229.html Edited January 7, 2014 by trgt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillM Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Blue gun, red gun, sirt gun, cap gun....no, no, no TSA agent is going to let that slide. Where have you guys been? I am in no way related to law enforcement but as a gold level frequent gun-packing flyer I can assure you that you'll find yourself in a very small room if you try to carry ANY type of replica gun onto a plane, in any country. On the other hand, once the guns are checked, I've never been subjected to further scrutiny different from others. In fact with the recent security changes I've been chosen a couple of times by TSA to leave my shoes on and leave my laptop in the bag. And no, not as part of pre-check. I still can't get selected for it even though my wife was selected in the first group a few years ago...maybe it is the guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 reply from SIRT: "While the SIRT Training Pistol is a totally inert device, we strongly recommend that you pack it as you would a live fire weapon and declare it to TSA. Also please be aware that you should know the regulations of your country of destination as different countries have different rules for products like the SIRT (Canada, UK, Australia all have forms of prohibition for "realistic firearm replicas). Although we have never had issues with airport security, we have heard stories of customers having issues when they did not declare them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmetzler01 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Thank you very much for the input. Great options so far, I may need to suck it up buy the sirt, and declare it like a regular firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiratePast40 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I've wondered the same thing myself. Pretty much resigned myself to grip strength exercises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Blue gun, red gun, sirt gun, cap gun....no, no, no TSA agent is going to let that slide. Where have you guys been? I am in no way related to law enforcement but as a gold level frequent gun-packing flyer I can assure you that you'll find yourself in a very small room if you try to carry ANY type of replica gun onto a plane, in any country. On the other hand, once the guns are checked, I've never been subjected to further scrutiny different from others. In fact with the recent security changes I've been chosen a couple of times by TSA to leave my shoes on and leave my laptop in the bag. And no, not as part of pre-check. I still can't get selected for it even though my wife was selected in the first group a few years ago...maybe it is the guns. I didn't try to say $hit about if TSA is gonna " let it slide" just tryin to help a brother out. EAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertl35 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 With regards to the SIRT - I had a Range Safety Officer come up to me once and asked me to unload and show clear when I was practicing with the SIRT pistol. So declaring it to a TSA agent makes sense since they look so real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my00wrx1 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Steve Anderson had some suggestions in one of his recent pod casts along the lines of movement (getting into and out of positions) and transitions (moving your your eyes from target to target). Alternatively maybe you could watch some training video's or read some books. Maybe not what you had in mind but your dry fire options are limited without access to a pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryT Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I am in the same boat with all the airplane travel. Gave up trying to bring anything. I work on movement, eye training exercises, visualization and physical fitness and make the most efficient use I can of the practice time when I am home. I found anything else is too much hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjordan78 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 If you are going to get a SIRT and declare it like a firearm you might as well carry your normal guns with you! I travel all the time with my guns, both rifles and pistols and almost never have problems. Pistols go in a locked case, inside my suitcase, with a declaration tag, then lock the zippers of the suitcase. Throw in some 1/3 scale USPSA targets and you can do all the dry firing you want in the hotel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateStaskiewicz Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 The SIRT training pistol is awesome for dry fire!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mese341 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I would just travel with my guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetsui Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 SIRT training pistol only come in Glock platform. Don't think they make one for 1911/2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I travelled for years. Luckily, it was to the same place for months at a time. In CA, I was able to leave a big piece of luggage with the hotel. Same with LA and AZ. Other than that I took my backup 1911 when I travelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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