BullyDog Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I just ordered a bunch of fail-safe upgrades for my Dillon powder measures. Is there any benefits by upgrading? or should I just stick with using the older type with springs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retread1911 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Tagging along as I am very interested in the answer. I have three of the older style am interested to see if it will correct the occasional bolt backing out that allows the case activated system to slip off the powder bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Tagging along as I am very interested in the answer. I have three of the older style am interested to see if it will correct the occasional bolt backing out that allows the case activated system to slip off the powder bar. Easy to cure... use a nylon tipped locking nut on the other side of that screw. It will never come loose again. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvarez Kelly Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have the newest failsafe mechanisms on all my Dillon measures. They are a great safety device that works. Almost everytime I hear someone has a problem, it can be traced back to the blue wing nut being adjusted too loose. Follow instructions and it will work great. Unless you hesitate in the middle, or double stroke the handle, it is much harder to over or undercharge you cases with powder. I wouldn't consider stepping backwards. They work as advertised, when properly adjusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have the newest failsafe mechanisms on all my Dillon measures. They are a great safety device that works. Almost everytime I hear someone has a problem, it can be traced back to the blue wing nut being adjusted too loose. Follow instructions and it will work great. Unless you hesitate in the middle, or double stroke the handle, it is much harder to over or undercharge you cases with powder. I wouldn't consider stepping backwards. They work as advertised, when properly adjusted. "With respect, is there some data or proof you can offer that backs up your claim that," They are a great safety device that works", and "it is much harder to over or undercharge you cases with powder."? I agree that they work easier if adjusted correctly but haven't seen the proof for these types of safety claims. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linear Thinker Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I've "upgraded" one of my old-style powder bar retractors to the new failsafe mechanism a couple of years ago. Dillon offered it for free with some warranty work I needed. I did not like the loud clank and the violent shake of the spring-loaded retractor. The "upgraded" measure sits in the spares bin now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I've "upgraded" one of my old-style powder bar retractors to the new failsafe mechanism a couple of years ago. Dillon offered it for free with some warranty work I needed. I did not like the loud clank and the violent shake of the spring-loaded retractor. The "upgraded" measure sits in the spares bin now. Do a search for "fartknocker" (seriously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyPotty Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) Here is a topic about my findings about accuracy http://www.brianenos...2 Edited March 24, 2012 by ScottyPotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvarez Kelly Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I have the newest failsafe mechanisms on all my Dillon measures. They are a great safety device that works. Almost everytime I hear someone has a problem, it can be traced back to the blue wing nut being adjusted too loose. Follow instructions and it will work great. Unless you hesitate in the middle, or double stroke the handle, it is much harder to over or undercharge you cases with powder. I wouldn't consider stepping backwards. They work as advertised, when properly adjusted. "With respect, is there some data or proof you can offer that backs up your claim that," They are a great safety device that works", and "it is much harder to over or undercharge you cases with powder."? I agree that they work easier if adjusted correctly but haven't seen the proof for these types of safety claims. Just sayin. As I'm sure you are well aware, the "proof" is anecdotal. The cases of overcharging I hear and read about are caused by human error OR failure of the powder bar to return with the springs. The newest failsafe mechanism pulls the powder bar back. If the operator does their part, one source of failure is eliminated. It's ok with me if you don’t want to use it, or even worse, want to disable a safety device that actually works. I don't shoot in the CT area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I have the newest failsafe mechanisms on all my Dillon measures. They are a great safety device that works. Almost everytime I hear someone has a problem, it can be traced back to the blue wing nut being adjusted too loose. Follow instructions and it will work great. Unless you hesitate in the middle, or double stroke the handle, it is much harder to over or undercharge you cases with powder. I wouldn't consider stepping backwards. They work as advertised, when properly adjusted. "With respect, is there some data or proof you can offer that backs up your claim that," They are a great safety device that works", and "it is much harder to over or undercharge you cases with powder."? I agree that they work easier if adjusted correctly but haven't seen the proof for these types of safety claims. Just sayin. As I'm sure you are well aware, the "proof" is anecdotal. The cases of overcharging I hear and read about are caused by human error OR failure of the powder bar to return with the springs. The newest failsafe mechanism pulls the powder bar back. If the operator does their part, one source of failure is eliminated. It's ok with me if you don’t want to use it, or even worse, want to disable a safety device that actually works. I don't shoot in the CT area. Anecdotal is fine. It's OK with me if someone "knows" that rubbing a rabbit's foot or carrying a four leaf clover makes them shoot better. As for me, I never disregard proven safety protocals and tend to resent any implication that I do. I started my post with the word "respect" and I would appreciate you returning the favor. As for shooting in CT, you are welcome at anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullyDog Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 Just ran a hundred rounds with the upgrade, the powder measure bounces around a lot more then using the springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I upgraded mine all of my presses - 9 of em.... I think it will help prevent bridging and keep the charges closer to what I set it at. No proof so anecdotal it is....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvarez Kelly Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Just ran a hundred rounds with the upgrade, the powder measure bounces around a lot more then using the springs. Try tightening the blue nut more. Should be "some" play (as in NOT coil binding) when pushing the handle ALL the way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck223 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Just ran a hundred rounds with the upgrade, the powder measure bounces around a lot more then using the springs. Try tightening the blue nut more. Should be "some" play (as in NOT coil binding) when pushing the handle ALL the way forward. Really? I've been adjusting mine for a slight crush fit at full extention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvarez Kelly Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) Just ran a hundred rounds with the upgrade, the powder measure bounces around a lot more then using the springs. Try tightening the blue nut more. Should be "some" play (as in NOT coil binding) when pushing the handle ALL the way forward. Really? I've been adjusting mine for a slight crush fit at full extention. As in "crushing" the spring? If so, that's way too tight. It may not affect you loads, but it's putting undo stress on a few parts. I'd try loosening it up until you can compress the spring a bit more with your fingers, when the handle is pushed all the way forward. Edited March 28, 2012 by Alvarez Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes777 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Wow, I didn't expect this much controversy over the new way of doing things. Maybe I need to pick up an old powder measure and see if it's every thing you all are raving about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunnah Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I this a "NEW" NEW system or the same "NEW" system that has been out for a few years now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvarez Kelly Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Same "new" system that has been out for many, many years... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'll stick with the springs, thank you very much. Never had a problem. Have had some issues when trying to use the rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyPotty Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'll stick with the springs, thank you very much. Never had a problem. Have had some issues when trying to use the rod. Ive taken off that black metal arm that the rod goes into and made a flat piece of metal with a threaded hole for a screw to hold the primer advance spring in place. Just gives me some extra room when you need to reach into that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 550Sam Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 maybe I am slow to understand from reading the posts, it is not clear to me what the upgrades are and if I need them. can someone post some pics with explanation please. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvarez Kelly Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 maybe I am slow to understand from reading the posts, it is not clear to me what the upgrades are and if I need them. can someone post some pics with explanation please. thanks. We are talking about the 2 piece fail safe linkage on the Dillon powder measures. It has been out for many years. Unless you have an old Dillon press, chances are good you already have the latest fail safe mechanism on your powder measure. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I have changed my "new style" back to the Old springs. Runs smoother and a lot more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45 Raven Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 What AHI said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tires2burn Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 How do you post a picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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