Neomet Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Here is a vid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unregistered Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I would get soooo annoyed at the jingling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hax Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Thanks for the video. I like the holster even more now. (besides the jingling, but I can get used to it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdphotoguy Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) I think the jingling that you're talking about is from the bars that hold it to the belt, so once it's mounted on the belt the jingling would go away. Edited February 7, 2012 by jdphotoguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Thanks for the heads up with the info, photos and video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Looks interesting... I like to see all this innovation in holster design From the pictures, you'd guess that the hanger was kind of bulky, but the video makes it look a little smaller. The only thing that jumps out at me is that if you position the holster closer to your body, that cross bar might become an issue on the outside of the holster - would have to play with one to ascertain whether it would be or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P. Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Looks interesting... I like to see all this innovation in holster design From the pictures, you'd guess that the hanger was kind of bulky, but the video makes it look a little smaller. The only thing that jumps out at me is that if you position the holster closer to your body, that cross bar might become an issue on the outside of the holster - would have to play with one to ascertain whether it would be or not... Dave, I will be the first to admit that i am not the best photographer. i think the holster is pretty darn slick and i can understand everyone's concern about this or that. A picture or video just doesn't really represent it. To hold one, install one, and use one is just another story. For me, the CR Speed simply just jabbed my thigh and restricted my movement and let's face it, was not the most secure holster. I liked the DAA at first but for "ME" If I didn't draw perfect each time, it would get hung up on something. I was pondering switching back to the CR Speed because of that. Universal Pro Shops new holster really addressed all of the issues I had. Nothing sticks or jabs me, when it is all screwed down, nothing will ever move on you (My DAA had a habit of that) . And your gun comes out clean and smooth reliably each and every time while the magnets secure the gun while unlocked. to me, it's substance is what also makes it. It just plain "feels" good to reholster. You have the sense of security on a solid platform. I put the pictures out there to just simply inform people that there is another viable option. as usual in this sport, it's what works for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I have a friend that has been using one for years. Talked with Manny Tuesday to order mine. I have a DDA, Ghost, CR Speed and Limcat to compare it to. Will post a review after I have used it in a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unregistered Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I'd be interested in seeing how it compares to the DAA RM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I'm curious about whether the draw tension is adjustable...doesn't look like it. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 For me, the CR Speed simply just jabbed my thigh and restricted my movement and let's face it, was not the most secure holster. And it'll shoot your gun for you in the right circumstances! I don't plan on going back to a CR Speed I liked the DAA at first but for "ME" If I didn't draw perfect each time, it would get hung up on something. I was pondering switching back to the CR Speed because of that. My experience suggests that what happens in that case is that the holster is just slightly out of optimal position - and the adjustment that got me for a little while was the "distance from the body" adjustment. I had the holster about 3/32" or so too far away, and that would cause me to bind it up occasionally. Moving it inboard just a scoche resolved it completely. Just FWIW... Universal Pro Shops new holster really addressed all of the issues I had. Nothing sticks or jabs me, when it is all screwed down, nothing will ever move on you (My DAA had a habit of that) . And your gun comes out clean and smooth reliably each and every time while the magnets secure the gun while unlocked. The DAA won't move if you put some force on the screws. I slammed it into a wall twice in the span of one day at the Double Tap last year. I bent the rod with the ball on it because everything else was held so tight. Crazy... The hanger on the USA holster would see to have an advantage in keeping the holster bits off your leg, due to how the hanger attaches further forward on the belt and holds the holster toward the rear. That's a cool idea. And your gun comes out clean and smooth reliably each and every time while the magnets secure the gun while unlocked. to me, it's substance is what also makes it. It just plain "feels" good to reholster. You have the sense of security on a solid platform. I'll be interested to see one in person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P. Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 Dave, i think you might be interested in it. BTW, nothing against the DAA, It is a fine holster. this one just works better for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 BTW, nothing against the DAA, It is a fine holster. this one just works better for me. No doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe139 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I like it, it draws clean no catches.I had a Ghost I liked the draw but I always fought the safety.The safety on the USA is very easy to use and secure.I also bought the optional paddle for the USA Holster that goes against your leg.The first thing I did was countersunk the two screws that go against your leg and I also like it and glad I purchased it when I bought the holster.The magnets are strong and hold the gun good with the safety off.The adjustments cover everything as far as the holster position I did Locktight all the screws.I have a match this weekend and will try and do a follow up.Just my 2 cents and I'm not an expert,Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Sorry in advance for the drift. But in that video of the SLB holster, the first holster with USA on it, shows the butt being dislodged and exposing the trigger even though the gun is retained. That's a dropped gun. http://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-NROI-ruling-details.php?indx=50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The hanger on the USA holster would see to have an advantage in keeping the holster bits off your leg, due to how the hanger attaches further forward on the belt and holds the holster toward the rear. That's a cool idea. That seems precisely backwards to me. I don't know about how you squat, but my legs go forward & out to the sides just a bit. That hanger is pretty big & beefy & it looks like it would make squatting uncomfortable for those of us that are thick of thigh. Judging by the video, if I were to get one, I'd be reversing the plate that attaches to the hanger & the plate that goes from that plate to the spacing plate on the gun so that the hanger would be closer to my gluteus medius & the holster would be forward, where I draw from. Unlikely that that'll happen, though, as I'm pleased with my DAA (my progression was from Limcat to Guga to DAA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Hepworth Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Sorry in advance for the drift. But in that video of the SLB holster, the first holster with USA on it, shows the butt being dislodged and exposing the trigger even though the gun is retained. That's a dropped gun. http://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-NROI-ruling-details.php?indx=50 even though the gun is retained....hence not dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Not according to the ruling I cited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Hepworth Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Not according to the ruling I cited. competitor's gun is partially dislodged from his holster while outside a COF, and the competitor "traps" the gun in the holster (trigger not exposed), he may do so without penalty. The competitor should immediately proceed to a safety area and address any necessary equipment issues. IS the trigger completely exposed...completely? : If a competitor's gun is partially dislodged from his holster while outside a COF, and the competitor "traps" the gun in the holster (trigger not exposed), he may do so without penalty. The competitor should immediately proceed to a safety area and address any necessary equipment issues. If the competitor's gun has left the holster (trigger is exposed), the gun must be treated as dropped. Even if the competitor is able to "trap" the gun before it falls to the ground, he must safely and securely lower the [/b]gun to the ground in accordance with 10.5.3.1 and call for an RO to safely retrieve it as per 10.5.14. Note that drawing and/or handling a firearm outside a safety area remain prohibited actions subject to DQ per 10.5.1 I would argue the gun has NOT left the holster...the trigger is not completely exposed. Many race holsters can leave a very small part of the trigger visible...even 1/8th at the top, would you say it is exposed and unsafe? I should then finish unholstering it and put it on the ground? If I did would I then be DQ'd? IF the gun can not be retained in the holster then obviously we would stop and rectify it with the aid of an RO. IF I can continue to walk to the safety area...I would do so immediately and fix it. Interesting topic though...although off the OP intentions. I guess the definition of "left the holster" has to be defined. Edited February 13, 2012 by Mo Hepworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I picked one up yesterday to try. It seems very solid . I talked to Manny at the Open he said that they hold the gun tight untill you need to draw. He snatched his belt around with his gun holstered. It stayed in place.It has roller magnets the pull the gun into holster when reholstering. Three positions, locked, 1/2 lock,and ready to tp draw. And it has an optional pad to stop the holster from rubbing your thigh when running the stages. Beefy piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Got one in the other day for Ms. Neomet. Initial impressions are that I like it. It is absolutely, positively the most secure holster in the unlocked position. The only way it is coming out is if you push up on the barrel like if you sit in a chair and the barrel hits the seat and moves the gun upwards. It draws very quickly and it does have more tolerance in the side to side angle that the gun is drawn from the holster. The adjustments are different, that is for sure. Every adjustment only modifies one plane. Some folks like ball joints, but I am not a fan. I like having 4 allen screws securing each direction of travel. But that is just me. It does sit the gun further back than the other race holsters in relation to where it mounts to the belt. Not an issue for me, but it is different. I'm not fond of the exposed threads where it mounts to the belt. I am going to probably get some cap nuts to screw down on those. The dominant thing though, and I can't say this enough is how secure the gun is. Locked is a locked and unlocked is very secure. When reholstering you know you have reholstered. None of that feeling around like with a Ghost because you don't want to take your hand off and have the gun fall because it was not all the way down in the holster. I'm impressed. Now Manny just needs to make one for my TS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip_E Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 New to Open, but thinking about moving from the WSM II to either the SLB or DAA. Is there any reason not to move away from the WSM II for one of these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Just a quick update. 4 matches and a couple practice sessions and Ms Neomet is feeling nuthin' but love for this holster. It hasn't twitched from where we set it, it draws very easily and continues to be the most secure holster in an unlocked position and the easiest to reholster into of any of the current race holsters. By far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Meyers Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Just ordered one, Can't wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Just returned mine. Nice holster. But I like the DAA after dry fire with the new one. Its just my preference. To many majors coming up to start playing with something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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