benos Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I was digging through a bunch of my old (real old - early '80's) notes the other day, and found some fun stuff. This list I called "The Big List (tech and attitude)". I'll type it in word for word (meaning, the grammar may not be that great but it made sense to me). 1. Allow aiming 2. Most mistakes are made before you shoot. 3. "Nothing Extra - Just Right" - everything - grip, position, vision. 3a. Moving quickly, with no hurry. 4. Shoot as if it's the last time you will. 5. Attitude - directed and calm. 6. Control your speed with your accuracy - not the opposite. 7. Dope stages to shoot comfortable and repeatable with a passion for performance but unattached emotionally. 8. See the target behind the sights, not the sights in front of the target. 9. Unemitional, no ego, Just Shoot, whatever the target takes. 10. Place your hands on the grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinj308 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Nice, thanks. I like number 8. I gotta think about that one a little. Thanks again Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basman Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rln Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 2. Most mistakes are made before you shoot. 4. Shoot as if it's the last time you will. 6. Control your speed with your accuracy - not the opposite. 8. See the target behind the sights, not the sights in front of the target. I really like these ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Awesome, a trip down memory lane. What I think would be really interesting, is how these items morphed or changed as you developed beyond the early 80's. Did you abandon any of these items down the road? Or did some become so ingrained that they became automatic? Grunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan13 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Thanks! That is an interesting list. I really like 2 and 8. I will have to think about #8 as it is an interesting way to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I really like #4. It would remind me to worry about what was right in front of me, not what I had done nor what was next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) So are you looking through the sights at the target? What distance does this work at? Do you have a drill to train this focus type? 8. See the target behind the sights, not the sights in front of the target. Edited December 19, 2011 by Duke Nukem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 My best iron sight shooting has ocurred when I look "through" the sights as opposed to "at" them. I think I read something from TGO about that a long time ago... It really comes down to seeing what needs to be seen. No more, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 Awesome, a trip down memory lane. What I think would be really interesting, is how these items morphed or changed as you developed beyond the early 80's. Did you abandon any of these items down the road? Or did some become so ingrained that they became automatic? Grunt I didn't abandon any of those. And kind of an interesting thing - None of them really became automatic. Pretty much had to be always summoning them. My best iron sight shooting has ocurred when I look "through" the sights as opposed to "at" them. That probably best describes #8. It's like the sights are "in the way." be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E K Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Awesome stuff! I struggle with #8 when steel is introduced. I struggle with all the rest as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dravz Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 My best iron sight shooting has ocurred when I look "through" the sights as opposed to "at" them. I think I read something from TGO about that a long time ago... It really comes down to seeing what needs to be seen. No more, no less. Focus on the front sight was drilled into me very early, and for a long time I thought I did exactly that. But I've noticed when I'm shooting at speed: I'm focusing at a point that's like 5 feet past the front sight! I don't know when this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 My best iron sight shooting has ocurred when I look "through" the sights as opposed to "at" them. I think I read something from TGO about that a long time ago... It really comes down to seeing what needs to be seen. No more, no less. Focus on the front sight was drilled into me very early, and for a long time I thought I did exactly that. But I've noticed when I'm shooting at speed: I'm focusing at a point that's like 5 feet past the front sight! That's super common - not focused on either the target or the sights. Mediocre shooting is the usual result. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dravz Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 That's super common - not focused on either the target or the sights. Mediocre shooting is the usual result. be Noted!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechnutbob Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Shooters often spend to much time dwelling on what they did wrong and not what they did right, Lanny Basham thought If I only shot less 8's, so he started thinking what he did wrong every time he shot a 8 and found he got real good at shooting 8's let the bad shots go and think about what you did right and you will improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I like the one about sights and target. For me, it means that the order of things is of paramount importance. (as with all in the universe) The front sight is the vehicle that carries me. The connector of all dots. The relationship of my shot to the target is vauge with a target focus. But, using the front sight, the relationship is precise. If I wish to be vauge, I'll see the sights in relation to the target. If I wish to be precise, I'll see the target in relation to the sights. It doesn't matter where the target is, I'll always find a way to hit it. But, it always matters where my muzzel is pointed, without that, I'll probably miss, enen the easy targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leam Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 7. Dope stages to shoot comfortable and repeatable with a passion for performance but unattached emotionally. I don't understand "Dope stages". Well, I can see my anxiety level high sometimes and a little chemical relaxation might have helped but I shoot bad enough as is. Leam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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