biggdawg Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 That is pretty cool biggdawg - unfortunatly I don't have the talent or the equipment to build one. Nice work though! give me a shout and i might be able to hook you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 If you don't mind spending a little more money and buying a new one, these are pretty cool. http://www.candmtopline.com/tumblers.html The two bar one with two TL-4 containers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkzipper Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I just found this thread on the tumbler and love the design. I did have a question about the 8" drum and those large bolts sticking out! Do they not cause damage to the brass? I would have thought that during tumbling and the brass falling down on those bolts it would dent the brass in some way? Never the less I was looking at the pictures of the abandoned drum with the built in separator and notice the paddles looked like they were only glued on. Again I would have thought that with the strength of PVC glue that it would be strong enough to hold the paddles and you could then for go either the bolts or rivets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Juice? Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I bought a cement mixer to tumble all my brass. Wet first, then dry. 9-12000 cases at a time. (it takes 2 hrs per 12k cases from start to finish) Shoot all year, then tumble ONCE a year. That being said, friends keep deopping off buckets of brass for me to tumble for them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggdawg Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 I just found this thread on the tumbler and love the design. I did have a question about the 8" drum and those large bolts sticking out! Do they not cause damage to the brass? I would have thought that during tumbling and the brass falling down on those bolts it would dent the brass in some way? Never the less I was looking at the pictures of the abandoned drum with the built in separator and notice the paddles looked like they were only glued on. Again I would have thought that with the strength of PVC glue that it would be strong enough to hold the paddles and you could then for go either the bolts or rivets. I now only use 2 screws in each fin and a shorter bolt but i had and don't have any problems with dented cases. if you put the drum on the tumbler correctly and have the bolts on the trailing edge the brass shouldn't impact the bolts -- there is a cavity back there caused by the fins. spin the drum the direction of the arrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkzipper Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I just found this thread on the tumbler and love the design. I did have a question about the 8" drum and those large bolts sticking out! Do they not cause damage to the brass? I would have thought that during tumbling and the brass falling down on those bolts it would dent the brass in some way? Never the less I was looking at the pictures of the abandoned drum with the built in separator and notice the paddles looked like they were only glued on. Again I would have thought that with the strength of PVC glue that it would be strong enough to hold the paddles and you could then for go either the bolts or rivets. I now only use 2 screws in each fin and a shorter bolt but i had and don't have any problems with dented cases. if you put the drum on the tumbler correctly and have the bolts on the trailing edge the brass shouldn't impact the bolts -- there is a cavity back there caused by the fins. spin the drum the direction of the arrow Thank you for the clarification. I would have had the drum turn the other way by natural instinct but I will not go against the grain. Does anyone have any SS so I do not have to go and buy 25 lbs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkzipper Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I just found this thread on the tumbler and love the design. I did have a question about the 8" drum and those large bolts sticking out! Do they not cause damage to the brass? I would have thought that during tumbling and the brass falling down on those bolts it would dent the brass in some way? Never the less I was looking at the pictures of the abandoned drum with the built in separator and notice the paddles looked like they were only glued on. Again I would have thought that with the strength of PVC glue that it would be strong enough to hold the paddles and you could then for go either the bolts or rivets. I now only use 2 screws in each fin and a shorter bolt but i had and don't have any problems with dented cases. if you put the drum on the tumbler correctly and have the bolts on the trailing edge the brass shouldn't impact the bolts -- there is a cavity back there caused by the fins. spin the drum the direction of the arrow I just noticed that in your very first PVC 6" drum the fins were the other direction. did or do you notice a diffrence in performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggdawg Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 I just noticed that in your very first PVC 6" drum the fins were the other direction. did or do you notice a diffrence in performance? it doesn't matter which end has the reducer and which one has the cap i just watch the direction the drum rotates and set it on the tumbler the proper direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkzipper Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I just noticed that in your very first PVC 6" drum the fins were the other direction. did or do you notice a diffrence in performance? it doesn't matter which end has the reducer and which one has the cap i just watch the direction the drum rotates and set it on the tumbler the proper direction what i noticed in the first video and photos is that the leading edge followed the roation of the drum and now you have the trailing edge following the rotation. did the change make a diffrence?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrxR Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 What do you think would be a good size drum for 5lbs of media? Would this be enough to do up to 200 .223 casings? Also how big are the aggitators? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggdawg Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 the agitators are made from 2" pvc cut into 1/3's you want a 1 gallon drum or about 8" of 6" pvc pipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Vigilante Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I don't think you are going to need 5-lbs of steel media for only about 200 .223 casings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 We have found that about an equal weight of pins to brass works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggdawg Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 i prefer to have 1lb more media than brass at that capacity. you can go 1 to 1 it just takes longer. i prefer speed so i usually keep my brass 2-3lbs less than media but i have several drums also. so 5lbs of media and 200 223 cases would be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) On the one I built, I just used 1/2" plastic strips and used counter sink screws to hold them to the bucket. Shown is a gallon bag of .223 (a little over 800 cases) and a quart of 458 socom with 10#s of ssm. Edited December 8, 2012 by jmorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulcissa Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 If you don't mind spending a little more money and buying a new one, these are pretty cool. http://www.candmtopline.com/tumblers.html The two bar one with two TL-4 containers. Wish I'd found thread back in May before I began my journey into decapping & wet tumbling 33K cases. In fact I just finished last week. My Thumbler model B is ready for a rebuild. The home-brewed big-capacity stuff is way cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtech Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Biggdawg what bearings or should I say size did you use for your idlers and where did you get you adjustable feet? I have followed this post and I am just about done I have made a few mods like I use 1/4-20 nylon bolts for my paddles we will see how they hold up. I made a removable belt guard also. 25lbs of media on its way should be enough for my three drums. This has been one of the best builds thanks for the idea it is much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggdawg Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 bearings are 3/4 x 1/4 get them from usa bearings and belt. the rubber feet i get on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/250847857418?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 glad i could help. i would like to hear how the nylon bolts work. i prefer the stainless my self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtech Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Standard router bit bearing I have alot of those. My only concern with the nylon hardware is stretch so I will run 10 batches and do a QC inspection. Once done I will move on to my annealer project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadfoot Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I just stumbled on biggdawgs tumbler idea today, and I am getting ideas in my head to try my hand at making one. I have a question about the rollers. What is keeping the rollers from wandering out of the pillow blocks? It appears that the heater hose is keeping the rollers from moving. Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 The pillow blocks should come with a collar that uses a set screw to lock the rollers in. Schultz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadfoot Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) Did you mean that set collars have the set screw? I`ve never seen pillow blocks that have set screws in them to lock in the rollers. Biggdawg, where do you buy your 8" rubber cap? Edited December 21, 2012 by Leadfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 My pillow blocks came with a collar that slipped over the shaft and had a set screw would lock the shaft to the pillow block. Is taht a better description. I think you can buy the collars separate from some pillow blocks. Schultz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggdawg Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 Did you mean that set collars have the set screw? I`ve never seen pillow blocks that have set screws in them to lock in the rollers. Biggdawg, where do you buy your 8" rubber cap? they are 6" caps that i use becaseu i use an 8 to 6 reducer i get them on amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VZPZNG/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggdawg Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 I just stumbled on biggdawgs tumbler idea today, and I am getting ideas in my head to try my hand at making one. I have a question about the rollers. What is keeping the rollers from wandering out of the pillow blocks? It appears that the heater hose is keeping the rollers from moving. Is that correct? the pillow blocks i use have set screws on them that you tighten down to hold the shafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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