Jaxshooter Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) Can the recoil spring system on the X-5 Allround be changed to a conventional guide rod and recoil spring? I am trying to get the gun setup for my load. Will appreciate any help. Edited August 13, 2010 by Jaxshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staudacher Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Yes, Bruce Gray makes a guide rod that replaces the ALLRound’s system. However you can use Wolff springs on the current system. I use a Wolff 14lb in mine with the last coil and a half removed. Removing the coil was necessary to make the spring the proper length to prevent coil bind issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomadera Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I called Bruce Gray, and he does not make a recoil spring guide rod for the X-5. BTW, what's the problem with the X-5 and it's extractor problems? Will Sig fix my X-5's extraction problems? Which just started yesterday. Yes, Bruce Gray makes a guide rod that replaces the ALLRound’s system. However you can use Wolff springs on the current system. I use a Wolff 14lb in mine with the last coil and a half removed. Removing the coil was necessary to make the spring the proper length to prevent coil bind issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayguns Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I called Bruce Gray, and he does not make a recoil spring guide rod for the X-5. BTW, what's the problem with the X-5 and it's extractor problems? Will Sig fix my X-5's extraction problems? Which just started yesterday. Yes, Bruce Gray makes a guide rod that replaces the ALLRound’s system. However you can use Wolff springs on the current system. I use a Wolff 14lb in mine with the last coil and a half removed. Removing the coil was necessary to make the spring the proper length to prevent coil bind issues. Hiya! Actually I've made a number of these solid guide rod units to replace that funny buffer system in X5's on a per-demand basis, but I have kind of come around to the notion that the X5 isn't sufficiently reliable to warrant the expense. I'll explain: The inevitable extraction issues are aggravated by reducing the recoil spring and it's closing pressure in full battery, which increases the initial unlocking speed. Thanks for the opportunity to explain my position. -Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerlrrp Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) I called Bruce Gray, and he does not make a recoil spring guide rod for the X-5. BTW, what's the problem with the X-5 and it's extractor problems? Will Sig fix my X-5's extraction problems? Which just started yesterday. Yes, Bruce Gray makes a guide rod that replaces the ALLRounds system. However you can use Wolff springs on the current system. I use a Wolff 14lb in mine with the last coil and a half removed. Removing the coil was necessary to make the spring the proper length to prevent coil bind issues. Hiya! Actually I've made a number of these solid guide rod units to replace that funny buffer system in X5's on a per-demand basis, but I have kind of come around to the notion that the X5 isn't sufficiently reliable to warrant the expense. I'll explain: The inevitable extraction issues are aggravated by reducing the recoil spring and it's closing pressure in full battery, which increases the initial unlocking speed. Thanks for the opportunity to explain my position. -Bruce I'm looking for some wood to knock on.... I've had no extraction issues on my X-Fives (I have 3 9mm, and 1 40S&W). I'm sure a lot of it's luck, but I also run a pretty decent load of 7.7gr of #7 and a 124gr HP in 9mm, and 8gr of HS6 behind a 155gr HP in 40S&W. I did not have good luck with VV320 loads or anything "light" on the PF that work wonderfully with my "gaming" guns. The X-Fives seems to have slow cycling so maybe there is something to that... I also do not like to modify springs in any of my SIGs but if anyone can it would be the GrayGun fellers. Edited December 7, 2010 by huskerlrrp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskySig Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I actually use a heavier than stock recoil spring in my Allround. It seems to help slow the unlock time, which allows the case pressure to reduce and alleviating some of the case adhesion problems. My extraction problems were reduced as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spd522 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I messed with different springs after my AA started having ejection hiccups pretty soon after I got it. Different springs didn't fix it. Called SIG and they said run a lot of hot ammo, preferably with 124 gr or heavier bullets, until the gun is broken in well. As soon as I switched to hotter ammo, the problems disappeared. By 1000 rounds, the gun ran fine on everything I fed it, even light PF 115 gr loads. Haven't had a gag since and that was several thousand rounds ago. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT QUITE RIGHT Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 My problems started after several 1000 rounds and I do not have a clue what is wrong. I tried the hotter loads and different COL's without any better results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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