AirBorne Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Work in progess Edited August 1, 2012 by AirBorne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc88 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Is this thread still alive? I wanna try this drill tomorrow at the range. Hope I can get part 2 when i submit my results. Alive and still kicking. PM me for part deaux. be PM sent for part "deaux". Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowOne Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Late to the party, but hopefully not too late. I ran the drill today for the first time and here are the results: String Draw Last Misses Total Time 1 1.83 6.98 3 8.48 2 1.9 6.78 3 8.28 3 1.84 7.29 3 8.79 4 1.94 7.4 4 9.4 5 1.67 6.76 4 8.76 6 1.77 8.07 2 9.07 Average 8.80 Lots of room for improvement. PM inbound for part two. Edited August 6, 2012 by SlowOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petshopshooter Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I got my first 2 USPSA matches under my belt over the last 2 weekends and shot the drill this evening. I made off with an armful of used targets from the match and made up some stands today. We shot it 8 times for an average of 9.1. My wife shot here first match yesterday and her average was 13.58 this evening. PM is on the way for the next step. Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911aow Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 After a long lay off, I used this drill yesterday as part of journey back to some semblance of my former abilities. Learned a lot of stuff that i "know" but so easily tend to forget. Was a real help in tracking the sights, calling the shot and propper trigger control. Great drill! Pm sent for part 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Great drill! Found a lot of areas to improve. Old can be overcome! PM sent for Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe14 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I tried this last night 7.33 2 dn = 8.33 7.06 1 dn = 7.56 7.21 2 dn = 8.21 6.94 2 dn = 7.94 7.17 clean = 7.14 6.81 3 dn = 8.31 6.99 2 dn = 7.99 7.07 1 dn = 7.57 6.82 clean = 6.82 6.97 1 dn = 7.47 Avg time with penalties 7.73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirBorne Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Going back to the range today to try and get Part 2 down correctly. For some reason I'm thinking about what I'm wanting to do instead of just letting it happen like it did on the first part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I have a question....if your right handed why left to right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirBorne Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) 1. 6.80 - 1 = 7.3 2. 7.o4 -2 = 8.04 3. 6.51 -2 = 7.51 4. 6.86 -1 = 7.36 5. 6.60 -0 = 6.60 6. 6.83 -3 = 8.33 7. 7.62 -1 = 8.12 8. 7.16 -4 = 9.16 9. 7.88 -3 = 9.38 7.9ish avg On the last 3-4 strings I caught myself thinking about what to do, and man did things go down hill fast. Gotta get this figured out or I'm just wasting ammo, but I do know if I can get this down it will help alot. Edited October 5, 2012 by AirBorne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunchies95 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 1. 6.80 - 1 = 7.3 2. 7.o4 -2 = 8.04 3. 6.51 -2 = 7.51 4. 6.86 -1 = 7.36 5. 6.60 -0 = 6.60 6. 6.83 -3 = 8.33 7. 7.62 -1 = 8.12 8. 7.16 -4 = 9.16 9. 7.88 -3 = 9.38 7.9ish avg On the last 3-4 strings I caught myself thinking about what to do, and man did things go down hill fast. Gotta get this figured out or I'm just wasting ammo, but I do know if I can get this down it will help alot. Try dry-firing this at home. Times should be nearly identical. You just need to be honest with yourself about what you saw. You want to be thinking about what you want to do over and over and over again until you start to automatically do it. Thousands of CORRECT repititions will make this drill subconsious. This drill is really cool when modifed to a plate rack/simulated plate rack. The objective is EXACTLY the same, but you either hit your target or you don't. No pity points for a C/D hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoosier Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 10 string average 8.074 Low was 9th string 7.34 no misses High was first string 9.24 2 misses Now to figure out how to send the PM for part 2 :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexOsensei Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I have a question....if your right handed why left to right? because we read in this way and usually this is the fastest but u can tray form right to left too..it is not this the main thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpom Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Don't have a range that will allow me to fire the drill, so next best thing- set up one third size targets at fifteen feet, and dry fired the drill to various par times. Used a laser device to check poi. Started out at about 8 seconds and after about 20 minutes, was down to around 6.5 to 7 with an occasional C. Definitely noticed that moving the eyes to the next target was a limiting factor in overall speed. On the faster runs it seemed as if the gun wan not actually stopping on each target, but just slowing down for the shot while still moving. Weird, as I have never experienced this in live fire. Thanks all, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardmix Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I am a fairly new to action pistol, shooting production unclassified at this point with a idpa holster. I tried the drill today. Time Penalty Total Time Draw time .8.04 0 8.04 2.17 7.77 2 8.77 2.27 8.45 1 8.95 2.17 7.34 0 7.34 1.97 7.82 0 7.82 2.14 7.11 2 8.11 2.00 7.45 4 9.45 1.90 Bad grip 8.07 0 8.07 2.26 6.68 1 7.18 1.93 6.69 1 7.19 2.03 Clearly I need to work on my draw speeds and eye movement. Great drill. Hardmix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Ran this drill yesterday. Shot it with a Production Division CZ SP01 9mm Borrowed gun and I didn't have a holster so I ran it with a barrel pick up. Also spaced the targets out so there was 5m between each target. Most runs were around 5.10-5.20 but not great hits. I was also having to reach across to the left to pick up the gun. I set up later where the gun was on the barrel indexed on the first target and picked it up using two hands. That run had good hits and was 4.53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shtr3 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Shot drill today. Penalties added on time. 1. 5.28 2. 3.15 3. 3.06 4. 3.01 5. 4.94 6. 3.67 7. 3.12 8. 3.01 9. 3.61 10. 2.42 11. 3.11 12. 3.32 13. 3.52 14. 3.17 15. 3.45 16. 3.81 Average - 3.478 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm300 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Shot drill today. Penalties added on time. 1. 5.28 2. 3.15 3. 3.06 4. 3.01 5. 4.94 6. 3.67 7. 3.12 8. 3.01 9. 3.61 10. 2.42 11. 3.11 12. 3.32 13. 3.52 14. 3.17 15. 3.45 16. 3.81 Average - 3.478 #10 a 2.42 assuming a .8 second draw to the first shot is around a .18 split with A's every time. Smoking! I do this drill a lot and the best I have been able to do all A's with my ltd gun is 3.99 and that felt almost out of control fast with .33 splits. Nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Shot drill today. Penalties added on time. 1. 5.28 2. 3.15 3. 3.06 4. 3.01 5. 4.94 6. 3.67 7. 3.12 8. 3.01 9. 3.61 10. 2.42 11. 3.11 12. 3.32 13. 3.52 14. 3.17 15. 3.45 16. 3.81 Average - 3.478 Wow, thats um.... Fast. I can run it in under 4, but at that speed all As is just luck for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan R. Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm confused...are the targets set a yard apart or edge to edge? "...about a yard a apart, edge to edge." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm confused...are the targets set a yard apart or edge to edge? "...about a yard a apart, edge to edge." About a yard apart, MEASURED edge to edge. At least I believe that is the intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan R. Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Thanks....I felt dumb asking but you what they say, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpa5oh Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Any guideline for what a Grand Master Production average score (time plus .5 for non-alphas) would be? I'm WAY slower than some of the times I'm seeing here...and I understand the important part of the drill is eyes snapping target to sites to next target, I'd just like to understand how far I am away from mastering the drill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus DUX Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Shot it yesterday. Average 6.003 after 6 strings. Production B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted July 29, 2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2013 Any guideline for what a Grand Master Production average score (time plus .5 for non-alphas) would be? I'm WAY slower than some of the times I'm seeing here...and I understand the important part of the drill is eyes snapping target to sites to next target, I'd just like to understand how far I am away from mastering the drill. In my experience, I never felt I mastered anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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