Chrishoward1364
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thanks for the feedback @jcc7x7, @Jeff_Alan, @dapribek and @Ck867. The DPP looks like a very good option, and seems to have the best optical clarity of the ones I've seen thus far. what average battery life are you guys seeing out of the DPP ? I've been hearing as much as six months of regular usage all the way over to replacing the battery every match.
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As a part of my ongoing divisional tour of USPSA, I'm in the process of setting up a carry optics gun. Before I set up a Glock 17 gen 5 with one of my trusty RMRs, or join the dark side and use a 320, I thought I would solicit a few opinions on the best red dot for carry optics. I like and am relatively familiar with the RMR platform, and would use this for self defense, but the lack of dot clarity, blue lens tint, and small field of view is a bit off-putting. I'm seeing a lot of Leupold delta point pros showing up in competition lately, I like the glass quality, and lack of blue lens tint, but have concerns on battery life. Max Michel is having a great deal of success with the Sig optics Romeo 01 (but he's Max Michel), and I like the field of view, but not the biggest fan of the blue tint. Vortex optics has a great reputation and I run a lot of their optics on my more practical rifles. Their warranty is second to none, quality is always good, and I like the Razor I have as a side mount on one of my rifles. All that said I have very little hands on time with the venom, or viper. Any feedback anyone has on what you choose to use and why, or notable issues on the others would be appreciated. Thanks for your time all.
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Wow. This became far more divisive than I intended.
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Well, I went to the source on it, and emailed Troy. The reply was eloquent in its brevity. Me: Hi Troy, my name is Chris Howard, and I have a question about the current Carry optics rules. I want to get this cut done on a gen 5 Glock I'm setting up for CO http://jagerwerks.com/down-range/ but I'm unclear as to if the small recesses (where the JW logo is) on the sides would make that illegal as "a cut to specifically or significantly lighten the slide" On one hand, no it doesn't add a competitive advantage, and multiple high level shooters including Ashley Rheurark shot at nationals with TTI glocks that have similar cuts, which would seem illegal in the rules, but on the other hand I could see a legalist bumping me to open because of it. If you could write back something I could use in case I run into any trouble that would be appreciated. Thanks and have a great day. Troy Mcmanus: It's not a hole, and per D7, 21.2b, it's allowed. Troy
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Thanks Patrick, I suppose that effectively answers that right there. I will still likely seek a clarification from Troy to appease any possible legalists who are ROing, but it seems to me that if that's legal in nationals than that rule effectively doesn't exist unless you actually cut a port through the slide.
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@Joe4d and @mwx40x40, I too noticed Ashley, and a few others running TTI glocks that were allowed on a high level in USPSA, and those have those nose bobs on the front of The slide. Seems to me those would be prohibited as they go past cutting a lightening channel, and right over to actually cutting a portion of the slide off.
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Pardon my ignorance as I'm new to USPSA, but does anyone have Troy's email address and info ?
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I figured I might revive this thread for a Semi related question. Im setting up a carry optics gun, and am going to have a company called Jagerwerks mill the RMR cut, and the cocking serrations on the slide. The specific cut I am having done they call the "downrange" http://jagerwerks.com/down-range/ My question for the ROs of the group is this: could a legalistic RO say that the slight recesses on the sides of the slide inbetween the sets of cocking serrations (where the little JW logo is) be interpreted as "a cut to specifically or significantly lighten the slide" ? Perhaps I'm just a bit RO paranoid, but in my region carry optics has minor participation, and I would hate to see my nice new carry optics gen 5 bumped to open on a minor technicality. Thanks in advance.
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Thinking of getting the shadow 2 but need some advise
Chrishoward1364 replied to f150mikey57's topic in CZ
I had exactly the same situation. Coming from a Glock, the weight of the CZ is immediately apparent and glaring, to the point of being mentally distracting for a while. Though I've had the S2 for less than a month, I have an intensive dry fire schedule, and shoot often, so I feel I can make some valid observations. The S2 is probably the most comfortable handgun I've ever shot, and it's incredibly fun to deal with. The recoil impulse is soft, reliability has been perfect thus far, and the gun is incredibly accurate. All positives aside, don't think you'll improve simply by changing platforms. For all the CZ's comfort, weight, accuracy, and svelte lines, I outshoot it relatively consistently with a stock Glock 17 on every timed drill, or stage I put together. I find the DA/SA trigger pull to be very off-putting, but pretty easily surmountable. I suppose preferring a single consistent striker trigger pull VS a heavier DA first pull, followed by a nice buttery smooth single action pull makes me an outlier, but I do find the inconsistency annoying. The magazines do have a nasty tendency to disassemble themselves when dropped, but I expect a slight modification to fix that. I control the recoil from a stock Glock as well or better despite the weight difference, though I suspect this is largely familiarity based. Overall, so long as you don't expect to buy it for a marked improvement in performance, but look at it as a lateral trade to a platform you may like more, then by all means enjoy it. I do not regret the purchase at all. I love the gun, however I will not be competing with it anytime soon. -
The TS orange in 9mm actually has more recoil per CZ's own testing. I now have a stock shadow 2 that I am doing a review on here shortly, but I will say with a little dry firing the trigger smoothed a bit. The single action trigger pull on the custom shop CZs I've felt are the rival of a good 1911 trigger, but at least to me they feel markedly different given that the trigger hinges back, instead of pulling straight back like a 1911. You may want to reference my earlier thread from when I was considering the purchase. There is some commentary from owners who have had work done, and reference parts compatibility/issues from the major custom shops.
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@bluedevil008 I followed along, and overdid walkthroughs at a sectional few months back, and it definitely improved my game. Being in a squad with a few GM and master shooters was great. I've picked up the conservative plan to stop the point bleeding on stages suited to another shooter as well, adopting a few guidelines to help. Game where you can, play it safe where you can't. Learn to game more often in the stages that have large benefits for it. Don't lose sight of solid, consistent, fast work that you know you can do, for a very slight benefit if it's avoidable. Also making an arithmetic for the sport, to calculate movement and the speed/point differentials for various plans. Thanks for the advice, its appreciated.
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After quite a bit of research, I concluded that given my Sasquatch paws, and... shall we say less than light steps in movement courses the retention, and spacing might not be best for me. also, I intend to run carry optics, and PCC as fun jaunts out from the 10 round domain so it makes more sense to stay with something along more familiar lines. I decided to try out the Ben Stoeger method with the Ghost 360s. I still like the general idea, and could definitely see trying it one day if I'm at a match with a user. Thanks everyone, for your advice and replies, if I do get my hands on one I might come back and give some feedback on it.
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Thanks @Nik Habicht that definitely gives me a better idea on it. I'm considering getting one as a set up for my new shadow 2
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@bcp I've heard that about the sights repetitively. I have one coming early next week, and I suppose we will see how it goes. Thanks for the feedback.
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Thanks @CrashDodson, I appreciate the advice. Minor scoring will likely make me change to carry optics, and production.