ladysaiga

Hm yeah, this video sort of shows me exactly why I don't think it's a good idea. In order to make a smooth enough angle, you have to actually remove an inch or so of material altogether, exposing some moving parts. I think I would prefer to stick with 2x2 with the JM and avoid this level of modification. I don't see much need to bevel the loading port. As is, it's not bothering me.

I'd like to see a pic of somebody's handguard sanded down. Like I say, I don't see enough material to work with there.

Do you include taking apart the gas piston in that time frame? Because in my opinion, that's the deal breaker. With two of us cleaning two of everything after every match...that's a lot. As for opening the port, I'm sure that facilitates a bit, but my problem is the abrupt angle of the handguard. It can't be profiled like the Benelli, because it's thin right there, you just can't remove the necessary material.

Ok everybody, I know it's been a long time, but I hit a dry spell competition-wise. After cleaning those rings on the gas piston, the problem did indeed go away based on some initial testing. The end of this month will be my first match since that time though so we will see how it runs on hard duty-because my Benelli still isn't in a whole month later. Meanwhile we picked up some AP Custom quad loaders and my new irritation with the JM is that it is NOT ideal for quad loading, and I'm not sure there's any way to modify it to make that work. We need two functioning shotguns for the occasional match where we each need our own gear, and at this time only one of us will be able to quad load-whoever is running the Benelli. Neither of us is much interested in running the SAIGA any more. While the JM is a very nice shotgun and for the price makes it a good basic entry into tac class, the cleaning takes some extra attention and it is not comfortable for quad loading, so that's ultimately probably going to cause us to phase it out of regular use. Which is too bad, because I really do like the location of the safety on the JM. It's convenient enough to throw it on safe before a reload during a stage, without really taking any extra time or removing my hand from its normal position on fire control. However, I don't think that's a good enough reason not to upgrade to a gun that allows quad loading without pain and irritation!

Thanks for checking in! I haven't had a chance to test yet. I'm dying to know. I DID hear back from Mossberg on Saturday. A badly spelled three-sentence missive asking me for a mailing address and serial# so they can send me a box to send it to them. Not even an attempt at advising me, even though I attached videos and a detailed explanation of what I had already checked. I don't want to send the gun back, I want to figure it out and if any parts are needed just order the parts. Chances are, the cleaning fixed it. Meanwhile, I didn't even think about it because I was so busy on Saturday, but I worked the HAVA family day event at Academi and Tom Taylor from Mossberg was there representing them with the guns Mossberg sent for the occasion; and until I went home that night it never crossed my mind to ask HIM for some expert advice. I didn't work the shotgun stage so my mind wasn't on it.

Hand cycling was fine. I'm hoping it was just the rings...one thing I did was before reassembly, I gave 'em a tiny bit of Fireclean. I find that stuff really helps prevent fouling from sticking so bad. If that was my issue, I hope the synthetic lube prolongs the time between needed cleaning. I know I can't get to the range to test fire tonight. Maybe tomorrow, though.

OK guys, watched Miculek's video and one thing we have not been doing is taking the two rings off the gas piston when we clean. Now, normally we give that piston a very thorough scrub anyway and clean it with a good blast of brake clean or whatever we've got, which probably has been getting in there to some degree, and the piston felt like it was moving well but yes the rings were a little crudded up. From the sound of things that may very well have been enough to cause my malfunctions. I took some pics but don't know if i'll be allowed to attach them. Will try in a sec. I may or may not have a chance to test fire it this weekend. I will let you know what Mossberg say to me but so far I have not gotten a response from them. If it runs after this, I'm happy. I was just getting a little steamed that it seemed to have pooped itself so soon, but it might just have been my maintenance. Meanwhile I may have let myself agree to picking up a Benelli anyway.

It's cleaned now but yes, it did slide in and out. Was dirty but not stuck; the two ports were open as far as a probe with a little pick would confirm. Nothing fouled to an unusual degree, it only had about 200 or so rounds through it max since the previous cleaning. I'll pull it apart and take pics tonight. Am also very curious if it will shoot now that it's clean.

I did see that other thread, yeah. I'm not thrilled about the idea of cutting coils, it sure oughtta run the same as it did last week if nothing's broken, right?

Hi guys, I will watch those videos during lunch, thanks. Yes the sidesaddle has been on it the whole time. I'm really puzzled by this, it's been running great. I know I'm not as solid as most of the guys I shoot with but I'm not thinking it's me, I can run the saiga fine without soft shoulder type issues, and haven't had them with this gun either. I haven't heard from Mossberg yet. Will definitely be interested in how they respond. I don't really wanna send off my gun and have to wait!

Yes, thanks for the reply. It was a fresh case of Rio, but the same stuff I've been using all year. My husband ran it too in our saiga, no noticeable difference from usual. The ports were open, not very dirty. I wanted to try something hotter just for kicks, but nobody had brought any I could borrow.

I've already emailed Mossberg on this, and will update this thread as I hear from them. Background: in spite of my username, I've been transitioning into tac class and using a JM Pro. I really do like it. My gun has had possibly 2-3000 rounds through it and an equal amount of dry fire in the past year. Never had an issue with it. Yesterday, stage 1 no problem. Stage 2, one single issue. The second shot of the stage it failed to chamber the shell. On stage three and four, I had that problem with nearly every round. I'm too new a member to post links, but for those curious my youtube channel is under my name, Rachel Bonaccorso Lindsay. Upon cleaning and disassembly, there's not any clear issue to be seen. Gas system not clogged up, rear recoil spring looks fine. Now, I've got a friend who's going to tell to buy a Benelli. But aside from that, what can anybody tell me to look for here? Thanks! Rachel

New member from Tidewater VA, hello! I'm a 3gun enthusiast. I shoot mainly with our local Tidewater 3 Gun club. I joined here because of a malfunction I had yesterday that I'm a little puzzled by, and will probably post the comment in the appropriate area. Nice to meet you guys!