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Does anyone know exactly where Alliant Sport Pistol Powder is on the Burn Rate Chart? I know its somewhere around Tightgroup, N320 and such but it would be nice to know where about it truly is.

Need to make Power for sure and wouldn't mind having something to reach out and bring somewhat of an okay group at 100yrds or so.

Good Afternoon Folks, I am not new to reloading for Pistols for competitions but an now getting into PCC. I am looking for some good reloading concencus specific to PCC. I am wondering what you competition shooters are running in your rigs. For my pistols am running 3.8gr of Aliant Sport Pistol under a 124/5gr Blue Bullet. Works great out of my CO and Production Guns. I have shot quite a few out of my Ruger and PSA PCC guns and it "OK" but maybe i can do keeping my Dot Still. I have read through most of the posts on here already and did get a little information. I am just looking for a happy medium between Accuracy, Speed and Flat Shooting. Hit me with what ya got and i will check ya later.

Anyone have any real world experience with the new Alliant Sport Pistol Powder yet? Burn rate? 9mm and .40 for USPSA and Steel Challenge. I am always willing to tinker and experiment but would like a good starting point for reference http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/06/07/new-alliant-sport-pistol-powder/

Awesome reading on this thread. I have shot almost exclusively coated (BBI, Blue, Bayou and SNS). None have given me true acceptable accuracy. I have tried a few Plated from RMR and XTreme. The Plated have never given me an appreciable benefit over Coated to justify the extra cost. Now, To My question/comment. Even though everyone is saying "Acceptable For Our Game" accuracy is good enough and i am okay with that but. I want my gun to shot as accurate as it can. (Glock34, Wilson Barrel). I want to try some FMJ bullets now after reading all this. What brand does everyone recommend within a reasonable cost? Sounds like MG's are a bit pricey. Right now my "Go To" Load is 4.1gr of HP-38 under a 125gr Blue Bullet RN. I do not have a crono but these should be right around 1050fps for about 130pf. P.S. For some of the posters that will probably be reading this. I stopped using TightGroup because of smoke and leading issues. W231/HP-38 is great.

@Bamboo. Thank you for that very well composed and very informative reply. I love tinkering and don't mind at all being on the "Fringe" of reloading for my pistols. V sounds like a good powder and i did notice the inconsistencies that everyone is having and i agree that since the powder shortage is now all but over their are lots and lots of other powders out there that have very well established load data available. I indeed may be just chasing a rabbit down a rabbit hole and looking for the Holy Grail of accuracy with my Glock 34 and should just be happy with the accuracy i am getting but i KNOW this gun can do better in the accuracy department.

By "Reliable Data" I mean something i can read and use from say "The Manufacturer" not something i have read on a forum or on the internet somewhere. I don't need a "Lawer" i just want good well tested data, not B.S. Now after saying that, I indeed have found lots and lots of good load data starting points from folks in this forum and yes, i love to experiment when i can afford the time and ammo to test. That is one of the reason i asked if anyone would know where Prima V falls in the burn rate chart.

Sorry for not getting back you guys till now. My Main Shooter right now is my Glock 34 9mm with a Wilson Combat Match Barrel. My Favorite Projectile right now is Blue Bullet 125gr RN. My current go to load right now is 125gr BB RN over 4.1g of Win231 should crono around 1050ish. Shoots pretty soft and not bad accuracy but i know the accuracy can be better.

I am hearing a lot about Prima V Pistol Powder. Where can i find reliable 9mm Load Data and, Does anyone know where it falls on the Relative Burn Rate Chart?

@igolfat8, What type of gun and What Brand of 95gr Bullet?

@RickT. Running a Glock 34 9mm with a Wilson Combat Match Barrel. Very tight chamber on the Wilson Barrel. Does Not Like .356 Bullets. Best Bullets for this barrel i have found are "The Blue Bullets" I have always shot 125gr 9mm bullets in USPSA but i am getting my inexperienced brother in law into shooting competitions with me and we are gonna be doing a lot of Steel Fun Matches and i hope some Sanctioned SCSA matches to get him a lot of "Under The Buzzer Match" Trigger Time.

I have 2 Simple questions for the 9mm shooters. 1. What is the lightest Bullet anyone has used in their 9mm handguns? (Non Compensated) 2. For those that shoot Steel Challenge, What would be your Favorite Loading for SCSA? This topic may have been covered here before and if so please point me to the thread and i will read on.

I would like to use the same for both economically but i want good match ammo.

I am pondering and wondering what everyone else does? Does everyone that competes (I am sure most people here do). Does everyone that does Live Fire Practice use the same ammo to compete with that they use to practice with or do some folks have different match ammo then practice ammo. 2 Different loads. Very similar but different.

I chose this bullet because i love the clean holes flat points put in paper and i wanted to try a 125 instead of a 147 Flat Point. Its listed under the 9mm section on SnS Casting site and sized at .356 so i decided to try it out. the 100 rounds of test ammo i shot, shot very well and 1.050 +/- is just my first batch. I have 3000 of these so some experimenting with O.A.L can be done but can only go so long due to the Lube Groove. I wouldn't mind a 1.10 length so this gives me a reason for more bench and range time.

The BBI 125gr TC bullets this post is originally about do not have a lube ring. The new SnS Casting 125gr FP bullet i am talking about does have a lube ring and a crimp ring.

@IDescribe, The reason for the 1.050 Depth is the bullet profile of this particular bullet. They have a Crimp Ring in them and my depth is pretty close to that crimp ring. Trust me, I stopped at that depth. Could have been a few thousandths shorter to seat inside that ring. I certainly would think 1.040 or shorter is way to short. Go to the SnS Casting website and look at this bullets profile and you will see what i am talking about. I was actually pretty happy with the way they performed.

Testing Completed using the SnS 125gr FP's. Very Pleased with Results. Specs: Glock 34 Factory Barrel 125gr SnS Coated Flat Point C.O.L.: 1.050 +/- .001 Crimp: .377 Powder: 3.7gr Tightgroup 100rnds tested: Flawless Plunk, Spin and Drop Free of Chamber. 10yard off hand group of 50rnds netted around 3in grouping (Not Exact) Slightly to the left of center and slightly high about 1.5in. 15yard Pistol Rest Group of 50rnds netted almost the same probably 4in grouping (not exact). As for the BBI 125cn, I will since i have about 1800 of those left to try i will certainly give them a second chance once these SnS 125's are shot up. I just think they were loaded to long and not the best quality control on the coating.

Says in my Original Post, I am shooting a Glock 34 Factory Barrel. I am switching over to the Glock 34 from an M&P Pro for the upcoming USPSA Shooting season and am doing my load development work for this gun. I just received my shipment of SnS Casting 125gr Flat Point bullets and so far i am impressed with the coating. Very clean and smooth compared to the BBI. I did my bullet seating and dummy round development last night and the way this bullet style is shaped i will be having a (what i consider) pretty short C..O.L. of about 1.050. I will tell ya that the testers i have done so far plunk, spin and drop free very very well. I will be loading up a bunch at different powder weights this week and testing for function and accuracy. We have a match on Sunday afternoon for a Field Test. My 2017 Season will begin February 27th for 3 matches a month.

I also wish more of the manufacturers offered a coated in .355. I know Blue Bullets does and they may be my next purchase.

@MemphisMechanic. The O.A.L. i am trying to achieve is 1.125 and its binding during Plunk and spin. I am going to try seating some tonight way down in the 1.0xx - 1.10 range and test. Late last night after posting this i removed the Flat Nosed seating die and got out the Round nosed seating die and it looks to me as like the very tip of this Truncated Cone bullet looks like it will sit directly on the flat part of the very top of both. I think the Round Nosed Die would leave the tip deformed also. I am gonna try it tonight and see. I am also going to switch back to a Flat Point bullet too. SnS casting has a 125gr Coated Flat Point.

Okay, So do an O.A.L. on the shorter side of the measurements say 1.110 and they plunk and spin fine, would these be okay to shoot like that? I looked at both seating dies and either one i would use will do that to this bullet. I have 2000 of these things to use. After these i am gonna go back to the Flat Points.

I think you guys might be right. I just inspected the bullets before loading and not much of a nipple at all. As for my O.A.L. I am going by the hodgdon Web Site load data length for the 125gr LCN Bullet. I wanted to keep a happy medium between 1.110 and 1.150. Winchester Factory 115gr FMJ is 1.150. I am taking the seating die out of the SDB right now to see.

I am growing to Dislike BBI Bullets and i am Asking the community if anyone likes or dislikes them and has ever had issues with them. My issue is with the consistency of the coating (I Think). Pictured below (as well as i could) is a picture of the top of the bullets. If you can, Notice the small nipple on top of the bullet. Its on every one of them. Its causing me issues with my O.A.L. measurements. NEVER get a consistent measurement. Trying to get 1.125. Also, Seems to me like the coating is causing bullet diameter issues as well. Not consistent at all. Glock 34 Factory Barrel Plunk and Spin testing almost every round at this point and rejecting at least half of them. What is everyone's opinions?

The marks like that on the bottom of the bullet are from pulling the bullets with a hammer style bullet puller.