I have run these all day long in an STI 2011, STI 1911, Glock (short OAL 1.085) at 3.8 to 4.3 at 1140 in a 124 grain and 121g, my logs show the Montana Gold 124g JHPs were set at 3.9 of V320 at 1.100 OAL and shorter in the Glock to 1.080 at the same charge. Chrono for match loads of course, hope this helps.