motosapiens

of course you believe that, which doesn’t bother me.

you are free to believe that you know what the rulebook says, but thats just like your interpretation, man… it is pretty obvious that intelligent people can read the same words and come to different conclusions about what they mean. thats why we have a supreme court, and dnroi, and arbitration. there are a lot of gray areas.

and your gun will probably last longer and work better. seems dumb to me to spend 5-10g on a gun and then use cheap crappy mismatched overpressured 9mm brass.

meh. “correct” is whatever troy or jody say it is. either alot of people misunderstood what they were saying before, or they are saying something slightly different now. i don’t care too much either way, but im happy to remind people that its a loaded start if they forget.

got the springs ordered, but further inspection and troubleshooting suggests a possibly different cause. it turns out what i thought were metal shavings might actually be polishing media. we got a batch of jhps that have a significant amount of polishing compound and media clogging up the hollows. not entirely sure how that stuff is making it into the frame, but after shooting sunday and field stripping the gun, thats what it looks like. so i spent an hour or so cleaning out the hollows on the rest of those bullets, which was even less enjoyable than it sounds.

my solution to this problem has always been to just grind the slide stop down so it will never activate, period.

ive been a competitive athlete my whole life. running, cycling, xc skiing, enduro, and now hockey. currently in the summer i typically pedal 3-5 hrs a week, and spend a day on the moto riding backwoods trails. in the winter i spend a similar amount of time on the ice, with some xc skiing as well. i have always been in better shape than almost everyone my age, but it still wears me out to build a stage, shoot/ro/reset 6 stages and tear down. part of it is also the mental fatigue of planning and visualizing each stage. if someone is not tired at the end of a local match, i wonder if that person is actually doing their share. for sure its not as tiring as cycling the leadville100, or terrible two double century (which i have done), but its still a lot of work if you are doing your share.

^this. i don’t get tired from running 20 yards, i get tired from carrying walls and nailing fault lines, then resetting steel all day, then pulling up all. the spikes and carrying props back to the shed.

if i lived where the op lives and had enough cash to consider spending 3k on a class, i would probably arrange to spend 8hrs with steve anderson at his range in ohio (i prefer driving over flying)and then do it again in a year. i have taken classes from ben when i was first starting out, and then later from tim herron and charlie perez (cha-lee, who posted in this thread). all were very helpful, but the smaller the class is the better it is imho. trying to learn stuff with 10 other shooters is annoying.

correct.this is one of. the main attractions for me over other shooting sports. if some people hate that, they can do steel challenge or some other standstill sport.

what constitutes a physical stage? I have done plenty of stages at nationals that require 20 or 30 total yards of running, but that doesn’t really seem all that physical to me.

I think most of the complaining is from the same two or three people that don’t even shoot anymore. I think most of the matches I do are pretty well, balanced, and have enough physicality, but I suspect it is more than some other parts of the country. The bottom line is that after set up, then six stages with reset and then tear down. I am usually pretty darn tired at the end of the day.

me. i enjoy the 50 yd standards at western states ss, and i have designed and built some 100 yard running stages (with knee high hurdles) for the hawktech/parma 1911 match. but im only 62. i get that there are some older folks, so when i have a prone position i usually make the targets available from other less advantageous positions as well.

meh, uspsa has always been a footrace/obstacle course where you popoff some shots. even with irons the targets are all pretty easy to hit when there is no time pressure, so the challenge is to execute fairly easy marksmanship fundamentals at high speed while being distracted by other things

iirc, you don’t even shoot uspsa matches, which might explain your silly claim. my experience shooting 20-30 yard targets at nationals (mixed partials and open) is that the gms are also better at that skill than everyone else. no matter how difficult i make the shooting at a local match, the same 5 or so guys are battling for the overall. if one does poorly at matches, its because one sucks at shooting and would rather make excuses than train, not because theres too much running and the targets are too easy.

not if he was good at math. since there is literally only a couple seconds difference between a fast guy and a non disabled slow guy over a hundred yards, it seems like the shooting might end up being alot more important. making up an uncalled miss on steel typically takes a second or more. an error leading to a standing reload (this was a ss match) is around 3 seconds. with 40-50 shots and stage times near a minute, 2-3 seconds of running speed are not nearly as important as 40-50 transitions and 5-6 each position entries and exits. most people who think they suck at running are really losing the time on entries and exits. sure, every possible skill provides a slight advantage for the people who are good at that skill, but in my experience it all comes out in the wash.

7-10 yds really? i am seeing (and hearing about) significantly more difficult targets now that everyone is shooting dots.

if anything, both major and minor are set too low, to appease lazy people and revo shooters.

i have done outlaw stages with 100+ yards of running and still got beat by the fat gm. i can cover 100 yds a couple seconds faster, but he can shoot 40 pieces of steel a couple seconds faster.

haha, what a silly excuse for losing. unless you are truly disabled, running fast is far less important than shooting fast and accurately and transitioning fast. when i watch people who complain about running, i usually find that they do *everything* slowly, and just aren’t very good at shooting. when i watch people who win matches, i see that i can outrun many of them, and many of them are carrying lots of extra weight, but they *all* shoot at a very high level.

we have a s#!t ton of leos involved in this sport. at my local range we treat them just like everyone else, with courtesy, respect and enforcement of the rules. no special treatment needed.

excellent point, but even so, we are not dicks when noobs show up with loaded guns and no clue. we simply walk them over to an empty bay and give them a quick briefing and supervise the unloading. its not complicated unless one or both parties decide to make it complicated.

idaho resident here, our local range has an unloading station between the parking lot and the main pistol pits, but it is rarely used because most of us don’t shoot our carry guns in matches. on the occasions where i do shoot my carry gunin an idpa match, i unload it at home and risk the deadly 8 mile drive with an empty gun on my belt. i haven’t died yet.

thankfully i don’t shoot matches where you design the stages, because the point where backing up isn’t a LOT slower is about 2 steps for normal non-disabled people. 99% of local shooters here have no issues whatsoever with turning to run uprange. we remind the other guy when a retreat is necessary. as an ro and stage designer for 12 years now, its been rare in my experience when a retreat causes any kind of problem. most people have an easy time understanding the concept of keeping the gun pointed downrange. i see far more problems with lateral movement and reloads, or with having a malfunction or unexpected reload when facing to the weak side.