I ordered the ds9 hybrid IDPA model, the website said 12-14 weeks but mine was delivered in 8 weeks. I'm very happy with it. For the price point it is very hard to beat. It's not quite as good as my cheely limited gun but I wasn't expecting it to be the same. I figured it would be a great ESP gun, now I'm thinking of getting the optic plate to run it in LO for uspsa.