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32 round limits are only mandatory at level 3 and higher. Learn something new everyday. Thanks.

Is stage 1 a typo? It's showing 34 rounds. I thought the max for a long course is 32 rounds.

+1 on this. Stuart was extremely helpful when I purchased my CZ and did the work for me. He went out of his way to answer all of my painfully bad questions. I also have a good shooting buddy who had a CZ 85 combat mailed out today from CGW. He said that David was very helpful with answering questions. Gun should be in on Monday or Tuesday. No way you can go wrong going with either of those guys!

Can someone clue me in as to what a "crown" is? I was under the impression that a grease ring had to be present for a hit to count. I really need to take the RO class.

I don't shoot a Shadow (I shoot a 75) but I also use a DAA belt with CR Speed pouches with a Blade-Tech holster with Ben's BOSS hanger. It's the shiznit.

I just wanted to add to what's already been said. I have had to call several times in the last two weeks. The wait times are significantly longer in the morning. When I called in the late afternoon I did not have to wait nearly as long. I think a lot of east coasters start calling them right as they open and just swamp their lines.

Hmm, I'd say John's response doesn't do a whole lot to clarify the question. He tells us how to clarify the WSB, but not really how to proceed if the WSB is in fact vague. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Correct, he does not. That is probably because I was more interested in whether or not Sarge's assertion was correct. I would say you certainly can't stand IN the shooting area and just touch something OUT of the shooting area. Not sure what to say after that. So what did he say about standing with one foot in and one foot out? Seems like you got fixated with me saying touching something. He also seemed to think the WSB leaves the door wide open to interpretation. Unfortunately, he didn't say anything else. I quoted exactly what he said. I pointed him to this thread so I was kind of hoping he would post (does he ever post here?). I only hope you were somewhat tactful when you asked him the question because he likes to put them in front sight. Every time I ask him something these days I always tell him not to publish it. Kind of CS if you ask me. Not that I'm wrong or anything! So, you think that me asking John a question is chicken shit? LOL....ok. You were wrong. Don't state your incorrect opinion as fact if you don't want to get questioned on it. Quite a leap. Publishing in a magazine without somebody being aware is CS. Not you asking a question. My apologies. Yes, that was a leap. It's so hard to read between the lines on line. i edited my post out.

Hmm, I'd say John's response doesn't do a whole lot to clarify the question. He tells us how to clarify the WSB, but not really how to proceed if the WSB is in fact vague. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Correct, he does not. That is probably because I was more interested in whether or not Sarge's assertion was correct. I would say you certainly can't stand IN the shooting area and just touch something OUT of the shooting area. Not sure what to say after that. So what did he say about standing with one foot in and one foot out? Seems like you got fixated with me saying touching something. He also seemed to think the WSB leaves the door wide open to interpretation. Unfortunately, he didn't say anything else. I quoted exactly what he said. I pointed him to this thread so I was kind of hoping he would post (does he ever post here?). I only hope you were somewhat tactful when you asked him the question because he likes to put them in front sight. Every time I ask him something these days I always tell him not to publish it. Kind of CS if you ask me. Not that I'm wrong or anything! Edited. My fault.

Hmm, I'd say John's response doesn't do a whole lot to clarify the question. He tells us how to clarify the WSB, but not really how to proceed if the WSB is in fact vague. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Correct, he does not. That is probably because I was more interested in whether or not Sarge's assertion was correct. I would say you certainly can't stand IN the shooting area and just touch something OUT of the shooting area. Not sure what to say after that. So what did he say about standing with one foot in and one foot out? Seems like you got fixated with me saying touching something. He also seemed to think the WSB leaves the door wide open to interpretation. Unfortunately, he didn't say anything else. I quoted exactly what he said. I pointed him to this thread so I was kind of hoping he would post (does he ever post here?).

Hmm, I'd say John's response doesn't do a whole lot to clarify the question. He tells us how to clarify the WSB, but not really how to proceed if the WSB is in fact vague. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Correct, he does not. That is probably because I was more interested in whether or not Sarge's assertion was correct. I would say you certainly can't stand IN the shooting area and just touch something OUT of the shooting area. Not sure what to say after that.

Here is a response from John Amidon regarding this. First the poster is wrong, he refers to the touching of something outside the shooting area as being outside the shooting, the rule he misunderstands is 10.2.1 which is procedurals while shooting. The WSB usually should state the start position is standing outside the shooting area, or toes touching the X,s while outside the shooting are, or they have a small fault line a couple of feet from the shooting area that is the start position. If folks would do these simple things in the WSB, it would solve these type of wrong posts. John Sarge - it appears you either are just wrong in this case or you are quoting the incorrect rule in trying to justify your answer. Based on John's response it appears that a shooter cannot be standing in the shooting area and just touch something out of the shooting area. Which makes absolutely no sense any way.

Yea, I get that and that is the response that I normally get. And then people, that know way more about it than I do, start throwing the rule book in my face and I always lose this argument. I guess it's more of a frustration thing. Like you said, you spend an hour or more building a stage only to have people rip it apart before the buzzer even goes off. I guess I need to be more through in writing the WSB's, as you mentioned.

How does "Start pos. standing outside the shooting area handgun loaded arms relaxed at sides" equal your "touching something outside the shooting area"? Touching something outside the shooting are is not, no matter how you look at it, standing outside the shooting area. I'm all for people that game stages but that is ridiculous. How about just doing what the wsb says? If I were to tell you to go stand on my left you wouldn't stand in front of me, while touching something on my left, and try to claim that you are now "standing on my left". Just my very humble opinion but USPSA needs to stop these start position gaming tactics. Once the timer goes off then game all you want.

+1 on the Springer base pads. Excellent quality. I am running them on the CZC (Mec Gar) nickel plated 17 round mags.

Base pads were waiting for me when I got home from my match on Saturday. Very impressed with the quality of these. Very well made and look fantastic. My pics aren't that great but they at least show how they look.