Quick Draw McGraw

Thanks. Apparently Zero will no longer give out load data sheet. They state that it is their policy. Reminded them that they have given me load data sheets on many calibers over the years but no go. I'll just work up a load using the Hornady XTP data. Was hoping someone else had some data to share for this bullet weight.

Anyone using these for revolver loads? What powder, grains, COAL? Thinking about using up some WIN231.

Vihtavouri N310

Anyone using VVN to load 38 special. I currently use Zero Bullets. If so what weight bullet/bullet style & load data.

your issue may be the Berry Bullets. i had an older SIG GSR 1911 that would just choke on those plated bullets. Switched to a FMJ bullet (ZERO) and no more feeding issues. Also with the Berry's because they are plated you have to be careful with your crimp. Too much crimp can damage the bullet. Quite frankly i don't care for plated bullets. Just for giggles I loaded some in properly resized brass and then pulled the bullets. The bullets had been sized down (smaller diameter than before sizing) just from the process of seating the bullet. I also started measuring bullet diameter & length on the Berry's right out of the box before using them and found lots of inconsistencies from batch to batch (BTW so did a local reloading company who also stopped purchasing them). I no longer use plated bullets.

Nice pistol. I've got just north of 1000 rounds through my P-II and lovin' it. I went with single side safety (oversized) & no FCS. Great pistol to shoot clay birds off of the 50 yd berm.

Shooting 9 x 19 out of Glock 17.

Thanks guys. Interesting that you noted they seem to have better grouping at distance.

Ics did you go longer or shorter with the new style JHP-C. What was your OAL?? When you say you used same load data for both bullets did you mean for both of the ZERO bullets (the JHP & JHP-C) of for the new ZERO & the Hornady HAP?

Zero Bullet Company has a new style 9mm 125 grain JHP-C. Item #136. It is a new hollow point with a conical head. I had been loading their 125gn JHP with 4.9 grains WIN231 with an OAL of 1.115 When I emailed them to get load data using HP-38/WIN 231 they told me they were loading them exactly as the older 125 gn JHP (jacketed hollow point)using 5.0gn HP-38/WIN 231. They later emailed me back stating the bullet was similiar to the Hornady HAP bullet and I could utilize similar load data. Anyone loaded any of these yet?

JK get the new one from John. John is a good guy and stands behind what he says. I've dealt with him on several occasions. Plus by getting the new one you will get your custom made cardboard carrying container. Baer's are great 1911's. One of my favorites. Old school hard fit 1911's; does not get any better. My favorite is my P-II; it just fits right.

ZERO has load data for their bullets using HP-38 which is the same powder as WIN 231. Their load data for the 230 gn JHP uses 5.8 - 6.2 gn HP-38 with a COAL of 1.200-1.220 with a .469 min straight crimp. For their 230gn FMJ they use 5.4-5.8gn HP-38 with COAL 1.245-1.265 My target loads using their FMJ 230 gn: 5.3gn WIN 231 COAL 1.260. However I do have a Baer which likes 5.6 gn. Start using 5.0 gn and work up loads for each 1/10 gn and see what your pistol likes; also need to play with the COAL.

Thanks perjohn, makes a lot of sense. Bob

"I'd say leave it stock, maybe install the 4.5# connector and polish everything, and shoot it." As far as 4.5 # connectors go is any one brand a better buy than the others? Local shop has Scherer connectors (3.5 & 4.5 I believe).

Recently purchased a Gen 3 G17 and really like the pistol. I've been pretty much a 1911, SIG, and CZ fan and always dissed the tupperware gun. Found that I really like the handling of the Glock & will be purchasing more. My question is about the trigger mods all over the internet. I plan to shoot it stock for a while and may even leave it with the stock trigger. Have seen the 25 cent trigger job and was wondering would shooting over time not smooth out these parts just as well as polishing them? Seems like there are a lot of trigger kits, parts etc. and was wondering what people had done to improve their trigger, whether they like it or not, and would they do it again. Have checked out trigger kits on Glockpro, Lone Wolf, etc. and the array of choice is somewhat overwhelming.