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Excellent this is what I am looking for as I currently use unique and find it very very dirt performing reloads and such an issue if I am not on top of the cleaning of the cylinders.... needless to say I will be starting low and work up a load over the chrono thx

ok are Clays and universial the same? I have 4 lbs of clays, but no load data....looking for a .38 load for IDPA I will be useing 158gn bear creek valley LRN and mixed brass...just looking for a starting point so I can work up a load Manuels have load data for universial but do not say Clays, the powder bottle has some load data but only one load...so I want to make an informed decision before I make a bunch of bullets thx

Are you saying that you had a shell get sucked back in and was in front of the extractor so that you had to hold the extractor back and use your fingernail to extract the shell from the cylinder? If that was the case then you can limit the amount of travel that the ejector has so that it can't happen. yes this is what happened shell was in front of the extractor

I'm kinda committed to the m19 for now, I got the gear for it plus no one will want my beat up gun not after I swapped out the springs bobbed the hammer, chamfered the cylinder etc..... I love the look of the S&W SSR though I'll have to save my pennies that said the m19 points more naturally to me than any other handgun I own...take that with a grain of salt as all my other guns are autos and this is my only revolver currently....so I have no other wheel gun to compare it to.

As has been observed, Unique is a famously dirty powder. Switching to more clean burning powder will no doubt solve many of your problems. Also with a revolver it's VERY important that during the reload you hold the gun straight up-and-down when you you hit the ejector rod. Not only does this give gravity the maximum opportunity to aid in reliable ejection, it also gives unburnt powder granules the maximum opportunity to fall out of the gun at this time. When we see empty shell casings left in the chambers during a speedload, there are several common causes: (1) An overly enthusiastic chamfering job on the chamber mouths has bevelled them too much to get a good purchase on the case rims. As a new SSR shooter firing a (I assume) mostly unmodded revolver, I doubt this is the case. Personally I prefer, when chamfering a revolver's chambers, to remove the extractor star and whittle metal only from the cylinder itself, leaving the edges of the extractor star square. (2) Rough chambers, typically mated with high pressure ammo; the casings swell so violently they fireform themselves into the imperfections in the chamber walls and stick fast. Probably not your problem, I would think. (3) The shooter has failed to hold the cylinder all the way out while punching the ejector rod, thus the rim of the inward-most casing has hooked on the frame, the extractor star is thus driven up and over the rim, and you wind up with the extractor star on top of the casing. This is a bad maf - since you don't mention it, I assume you didn't have it. Since you're switching hands anyway - I do, as well - there's really no reason not to use the "LFI technique" where you wrap your hand around the cylinder and use the middle two fingers to continuously press the cylinder all the way out during the load. (4) Failure to hold the gun straight up-and-down, perhaps also combined with not whacking the ejector rod hard enough, has failed to full-length extract the casings. Combine that with dirty chambers, one or more casings wind up only partially out of the chambers. Your most likely problem. My opinioin, a cleaner burning powder and a bit of work on technique and you should be down the road. thx for the ideas....I actually do have my chambers chamfered, However I do not think that this is the problem as I took the extractor out when I did it and I only knocked the corners off the cylinders actually only very lightly knocked them down, My extractor star is in it's original shape. pretty sure the chambers are not the issue either as I have polished them shiny smooth. And I have not chrono'ed my ammo yet I have loaded up to +p per the manuel but I don't really trust it, and while they "Feel" stiffer than my normal poof loads for .38 I have no real way of knowing till I get off my butt and set up my chrono. you mentioned not opening up the cylinder up the whole way and the inner most piece of brass hanging up on the frame, in the 2 instances this happened it was the shell closest to the frame, so maybe in my hurry to eject the shells and reload I didn't swing the cylinder out enough......something to practice....that and holding the gun angled up more when I eject the cartridges.... Like you said "Cleaner powder and technique" thx

Another guy at the match mentioned Clays, I'll have to find some...problem is I got tons of Unique....I'll get some round nose as I'm almost out of the SWC..... were can I get a final word on LC 38 brass? If it is legal I would like to use it, assuming I use it for IDPA matchs only and can recover most of it 2K-3K should last a long time. I'm not sure if were I shoot is a lost brass range, but i found that by pasting targets every time I was able to swoop down and recover my brass as it all tends to fall in the same spot, when I have shot SSP I just kinda figured id lose it as it flys everywere no big deal.

I'd say you did pretty good you won the whole damn Match.....by a very decent margin...I mean jeez what did you drop 3 points...very nice indeed....I watch shooters like you and it reminds me of how far I have to go..... By the way I enjoyed being on your squad and some of your insites to the CoF that they had there. Very helpful for me THX!!!!! Also I enjoy shooting with people that are much better than I am as it tend's to raise my level of shooting.... I will try to make the ICORE match, I need more speed loaders, and pouchs......the next one for sure

ok so I just shot my first match in SSR, my 4th ever IDPA match. With my model 19, comp III speed loaders and .38spl ammo mixed brass, unique powder, bear creek bullets. a couple of observations: 1. I found that if I didn't run a steel brush through my cylinders every 2 stages I got sticky cylinders and had to shove the rounds in with my thumb. Does everyone do this? the revolver guys in my squad shot moon guns and didn't have this issue 2. I modified my speed loaders as outlined in this forum, this works great! unless you drop the loader on the ground like I did one stage....killed 5 second fumbling around with it on the ground. 3. I need to tilt my gun up/back more when I eject my shells I had 2 stages were I had a shell get stuck under the extractor, and had to fish it out with my fingernail....killed the stage for me as the first half of the stage I smoked pist me off....anyway to eliminate this? how should I be ejecting the shells? so for the experts, I found some unburned powder in my gun and I have these loads loaded up to what my manuel says is +p levels, I think I need to switch powders to a faster powder what ae you guys using? I shoot bear creek valley 158 SWC bullets moly coated I use mixed brass, but I was thinking I should by some uniform brass for matchs, plus I like to win...LOL and want to eliminate all equipment issues. I should be the limiting factor in my shooting not my equipment. Starline makes a 38 LONG COLT brass that is shorter than the reg .38 spl brass, maybe this will help with faster reloads? Also I do a switch hand reload being so right hand dominate I can't seem to do a a reload the other way, I figured no big deal till they had a flashlight stage...LOL....I made it through but would like to try to become proficient the other way. Any suggestions? BTW I won my division....(not many guys shoot SSR)..and would have finished 2nd in ESR, also finished 16th overall I think 41 guys shot this weekend.... Much lower than when I have shot SSP but I didn't have very high expectations.......so not bad but not good either. I need to solve my equipment issues, and work on my reloads, and stage management to account for 6 shots.....I also short stroked it twice I had a great time though and the SSP division will not see me for a long while...... any comments or help appreciated...

wow that is cheap......

yeah I didn't think so but im being cheap......

this may belong in the IDPA section, but are these legal for IDPA?

good point Ill do that I do like mor elight around the sights.... gun is a 19-5 anyone know if it is pinned or not....looks sodered on to me

I have my special store of federal primers that I use for matchs only win, wolff, and anything else I can get my hands on are for practice only.....

thx for the link Ill, keep it if I goof up the front sight...

sounds like a deal....I want it to be .100.....so time to bust out the files.....thx