jmorris Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 The replacement crank looks a lot like the super 1050. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 It's nearly the end of July, are they shipping? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeOfToren Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 This looks really interesting. All my brass are sorted and processed before I load them on 650. I think the AutoDrive makes perfect sense for me. The only question I have is whether the powder sensor will take up 1 more station. Currently all 5 stations on my 650 are taken: 1. Sizing 2. Powder drop 3. Bullet drop 4. Seating 5. Crimping I'd hate to have to combine seating and crimping into one station. The video does not show the right angle for me to tell if the powder sensor requires a separate station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeeg Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 This looks really interesting. All my brass are sorted and processed before I load them on 650. I think the AutoDrive makes perfect sense for me. The only question I have is whether the powder sensor will take up 1 more station. Currently all 5 stations on my 650 are taken: 1. Sizing 2. Powder drop 3. Bullet drop 4. Seating 5. Crimping I'd hate to have to combine seating and crimping into one station. The video does not show the right angle for me to tell if the powder sensor requires a separate station. The powder sensor is hooked up to the Dillon powder check so yes it would take up a station unless you use a GSI tool head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Well, I just ordered one. Have no idea when it will ship but I will let you know how it goes when I get it. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwikel Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Seating and crimping in one station is going to be an interesting challenge for those who run this with a MBF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 I don't plan on using a powder check Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Sounds like even on the 1050 you may have to use a seater/crimp die in order to use powdersense...... Share https://youtu.be/SD1JI-DWRTw Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Maybe you can get PMD to this thread. He is a member of this group. I know he runs one and has good things to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedmonger Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Folks - The 650 PRO is just about to be shipped - just days away. We extended the testing to ensure we get all the bits and pieces sorted and as a result have decided to INCLUDE the Optical Decapping Sensor with the unit (a $200 value) for free. As was posted previously the product video is here: http://www.markvii-loading.com/Videos_ep_41.html And the design was changed from Prototype to Production to include an in-line direct drive mechanism to ensure that JamSense works as finely as possible in the upstroke of the 650 ram. The sensors do NOT take up a die station UNLESS you use PowderSense per Smeeg and yes this is the same situation as with the 1050 models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeeg Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I see your selling the "swage it" on the mark 7 website have you tested it on your automated 650? Do you recommend it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 I'm having a hard time deciding on just getting the Mark VII 650 pro or upgrading everything to the 1050 setup....... I already ordered the 650pro but am second guessing myself. What are the advantages of going all out for the 1050 setup? I only load .40 (maybe 9mm once a year) and only load maybe 1500/month. (300-400 a week) Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeOfToren Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I am in the same boat as you are... I have everything set up nicely with 650, and can do 100 rounds/5 min manually with ease. Of course as I am getting older my shoulder starts complaining when I pump out 500 rounds per day. Suppose you already have the 650 fully decked out with case and bullet feeder. If you go the 1050 route, you get brass processing capability for free. There are a lot of metal parts than 650. No life warranty from Dillon. It will cost you about 4,500 bucks in total (including selling your 650, keeping case and bullet feeder and buying the 1050 press + AutoDrive). If you go with 650, you have to process your brass before loading them to run smoothly. There are lots of plastic parts on 650. Once you hook up AutoDrive, there won't be any life time warranty from Dillon. It will cost you about 1,900 bucks in total (you just need to buy the AutoDrive). In the end, I think the 650 setup is more cost effective: - If you already have 650 fully decked out - AND if you don't mind pre-sorting and throwing away military brass before loading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Sounds like even on the 1050 you may have to use a seater/crimp die in order to use powdersense...... Without the GSI tool head/feeders that is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbitNutz Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 It looks awesome. I would tend to want to keep it static and not mess with it once I had it dialed in, so it would be a dedicated machine per caliber... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 It looks awesome. I would tend to want to keep it static and not mess with it once I had it dialed in, so it would be a dedicated machine per caliber...moI ended up buying the 1050 and the Mark VII. It is awesome...... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbitNutz Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) I would have to shoot a lot more than I do to even begin to justify the cost of it. Unless of course, my justification is, I just wanted it. I wouldn't hesitate to drop, what? Say $1,750.00 for a Super 1050, plus $2,525.00 for the 1050X Autodrive, another $700.00 for a GSI bullet feeder (I have a GSI on my 650 and like it a lot)...throw an additional $500.00 for incidentals, dies, mounts...whatever. Add all that up and you bounce off $5,500.00, and that is for only one caliber, which is good, because there is no way once I got all this working I would dare reconfigure it. Or maybe I would? Maybe you think strategically and make runs of a particular caliber in the thousands? Each caliber change would likely take another couple of grand and a week to tune. I'm not one to make a business out of this...we're too litigious a nation. Having said all that, I still think it is incredibly cool. Edited September 7, 2016 by AbitNutz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterDrew Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 So now that these have been out for a little bit what's the experience? I'm looking at picking one up, but the only person I spoke to that has one warned me that he found the need to process brass and swage it before being able to run this reliably. I currently run my range pick up 9mm thru a tumbler and then lube and load without much further issue. If going to the mark7 added a significant amount of brass prep I think it would be a deal breaker. Any word on this out there? Any personal experience heads up would be appreciated Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 12 hours ago, shooterDrew said: So now that these have been out for a little bit what's the experience? I'm looking at picking one up, but the only person I spoke to that has one warned me that he found the need to process brass and swage it before being able to run this reliably. I currently run my range pick up 9mm thru a tumbler and then lube and load without much further issue. If going to the mark7 added a significant amount of brass prep I think it would be a deal breaker. Any word on this out there? Any personal experience heads up would be appreciated Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro I have one an it works great. It isn't necessary to pre process brass with the Mk7 anymore than it is if you are pulling the handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterDrew Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I have one an it works great. It isn't necessary to pre process brass with the Mk7 anymore than it is if you are pulling the handle. Cool. Thx for the response. You might be costing me money...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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