FortyOverUnder Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I've been shooting n320 for 9mm loads for a little while now. Now I'm curious to try it for some 180gr 40s&w loads. An concerns making major at Glock COLs? I'm shooting a Glock 22 Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk No concerns at all. You might just fall in love with it. Start at 4.6gr @ 1.135. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmtyndall Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I hate falling in love with $35/lb powder. But it meters better and has less horror stories than Clay's. Off to the bench! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Titegroup for me. They are plentiful and cheaper. Yup, it is dirtier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 So is n320 pretty much the go to first choice for reloading 40 for major. Have heard many people recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomy Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) So is n320 pretty much the go to first choice for reloading 40 for major. Have heard many people recommend it.I started using n320 a couple of years ago when powder supplies where tight. I heard good things about it and when a shooter at my club was liquidating a large supply of n320 for a sick elderly friend I jumped on 12 ponds at $30 a pound. I have learned to love everything about it except the price. I purchased 6 more pounds shortly thereafter. Since the I purchased a 8 pound jug of WST and found it to offer similar results except that it does not meter as well and I can't let my powder run too low. Chrono results are not as tight.All that said I will continue to use n320 until I run out and then use WST. If after full immersion in WST over a longer period of time in more shooting conditions and situations, I find it has drawbacks that I would not mind the extra cost of n320 to solve those problems, I will probably stay with WST. Edited January 1, 2016 by Zoomy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 So is n320 pretty much the go to first choice for reloading 40 for major. Have heard many people recommend it. Part of what is "best" is going to be what you can FIND. From what I've gathered there are quite a few powders that will work: Titegroup WST N320 e3 Ramshot Apparently not for the faint of heart but -> Clays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FULLMETAL Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 N320 has been my major go to this year very clean and accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawk Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Have you tried Universal? It burns clean and should give the 180 grainer the needed velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsg Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Bullseye will get you there for 180 and 200. I don't find it any cleaner or less smokey than Titegroup so I use TG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postal Bob Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Titegroup dirty? Not if you're using jacketed bullets. Maybe with lead, or some of the coated. But I use it exclusively because it's so clean with Montana Gold bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Titegroup dirty? Not if you're using jacketed bullets. Maybe with lead, or some of the coated. But I use it exclusively because it's so clean with Montana Gold bullets. That's not my experience, it's pretty dirty - even with jacketed or plated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Switched from Solo 1000 to WST , been loving it since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherryriver Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) In the evolution of things around here... Went to WST for .40 a few years back. It had been my basic .45 Auto powder as a slightly cleaner replacement for Bullseye. I had never thought of using anything so fast in .40 before, but, then, I'm not a .40 shooter- the Boss is and I'm privileged to work on her ammo.The WST was the suggestion of Ryan Stinar of SnS and frankly, it worked superbly. When we transitioned to the 200gr round-nose I was going 1.200" and about 3.9gr WST. Nice and quiet- WST is actually advertised to have "low report". Then the same mountain of VV320 the gentleman above mentioned came our way, also, so I changed to that, mostly for less temperature sensitivity and more cleanliness. Then I got on a Red Dot bug for a year or so because I scored a mountain of it. The charge weight goes slightly less than 320 and so maybe it has slightly less recoil, too.But I've been feeding my .45s 310 for some time now, hoarding it mostly for majors. Still the best thing I've ever put in a .45 case. So I got the notion to give that a try in .40 USPSA loads with the 200s.My first impression after the first two range test sessions is: where's the recoil? Where's the blast? I started with 3.5gr and it sent the 200s at about 795fps. I went up to a shy 3.7gr- really worried about hitting a pressure spike with the stuff- and on a freezing day, it started out with readings around 830fps but soon fell down to about 810 as the ammo in the box cold-soaked on the range table.No overpressure signs were observed and function was perfect in her Canyon Creek Custom special.Got to keep working this, see if I can get a cold-weather load that makes 172pf without scaring myself. Edited January 26, 2016 by Cherryriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhollis51 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 N320 seems to be a great choice when it comes to a clean burning powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosh75287 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Someone mentioned AA#5 in a previous post, and it worked well for me in .40. Everything I've ever tried in .40 has worked well, but I recall using Alliant Unique the most. Recent work with Red Dot and IMR-700X was very fruitful, too, though I chronographed no loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueknight749 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Maybe I'm a little crazy but I've been using N340 at 5.1gn with Xtreme 180's HP and they are hitting at 169-170pf. The velocity is right around 933fps (average). The test weapon is a Sig X5 Competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueknight749 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 OAL IS 1.10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherryriver Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Using the fast stuff is about recoil management. Try it side-by-side. It can be eye-opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurusty Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 WST @ 5.3, HOGDON LONGSHOT @ 5.5, and even IMR 800x works, but it meters bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 I really want to give Clays a try but I missed the last batch at Powder Valley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog566 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Getting ready to load up my first batch of rounds on the new press. Im thinking of starting with 4.6 grains of titegroup at 1.18 with a acme 180 coated bullet. Having never loaded pistol before I'm hoping this will be a good starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 Getting ready to load up my first batch of rounds on the new press. Im thinking of starting with 4.6 grains of titegroup at 1.18 with a acme 180 coated bullet. Having never loaded pistol before I'm hoping this will be a good starting point. If it's a "2011" that should be pretty good. That's close to my load with Plated, you might drop it a couple of tens with the coated and work up if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Getting ready to load up my first batch of rounds on the new press. Im thinking of starting with 4.6 grains of titegroup at 1.18 with a acme 180 coated bullet. Having never loaded pistol before I'm hoping this will be a good starting point. probably major. 4.3 grains for me yielded 172 PF in my Benny hill Long slide. 4.6 was 180 or 181 PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog566 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Yes loading for a sti. I dropped it down to 4.4 grains. How much if any do you see in deviation on oal. I'm seeing 1.179ish-1.185ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frgood Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I just tested, and am considering settling on, 180 gr. FP (X-Treme) N340 1.063 COL. This is for a CZ TS .40 5.4" bbl. Very consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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