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Bryan........Thanks! Designed by a 3 Gunner for 3 Gunners. I know its not daytime illuminated and its not 1-some super high magnification. But it works well for an 8.8" scope and as you say.....its BULLETPROOF. The BDC below center works well with a multitude of loads and it is very precise. The lines of the BDC pretty much disappear until you need to see them. I was out today ringing an 8" steel plate at 450 yards almost as fast as I could pull the trigger. Load was a 53gr. VMAX over Benchmark powder going 3000fps from my 17" barrel.

The new reticles in the Enhanced Compacts will start shipping to dealers around lat February. The reticles are ready. The problem is that the Compact model lead times are pretty lengthy and we are still fulfilling orders from before Thanksgiving. Euro Optic and the larger online retailers are most likely the place to receive the first shipment of them. As for a 1-6,8,10 or something along those lines, if you are in the scope business and not working on something along those lines, you are shooting yourself in the foot. I wish I could share more, but I cannot.

Some additional info on the reticle. FC3G_Reticle_Sheet_Final.pdf

The Remington 5R in my opinion, is the best value for an out of the box rifle. The secret for good out of the box performance is to properly torque the action screws to 65 in pounds give or take 10%. By tuning the action screw torque, you can really unleash good performance. Shooting Mil-Spec A191 (190SMK) the gun would shoot 3/4" at 100. Using my handloads of 208 AMAX's over 68.4gr. of RL17, the gun shoots 1/2" at 100 with ease and maintains 1moa to 1000 yards. My gun is stock. The only upgrade was an Extreme CG 2 stage trigger. Next will be a Surgeon bottom metal. I have a true Mk13 Mod 7 clone built to spec and it does not shoot any better than my 5R.

So just curious......how popular would an FFP 1-10 be?

First I recommend that you decide whether or not that you will require an FFP or SFP scope. Then determine how far you intend to shoot. Once you figure those two things out, then consider your scope because not all scopes will provide the amount of elevation travel that you will need to shoot max effective range of the 338LM. I also have an AI AX 338LM, but use a Nightforce 5.5-22x56. Its SFP and has 100MOA of internal travel. That coupled with the 30moa taper in the base gives me about 80MOA total elevation adjustment which allows me to dial and hold dead on at 2000 yards. The NF 8-32 is limited on travel to 65MOA total meaning that with a 20 MOA base, you will get about 52 MOA total meaning about 1500 yards before you need to hold over additional in your reticle. My farthest shooting has been to 2172 yards shooting 300 grain Berger Hybrids. I dialed 80 minutes and held 17 minutes on my reticle to hit a 40" x 40" steel square. I hit it 3 out of 5 times. I can routinely hit a 30" x 30" steel at 1800 by dialing 67 minutes. Moral of the story. Buy the best glass you can afford to get the max potential out of the rifle you just bought.

The 30.06 is a very capable round. It has about 10 grains more powder capacity than the .308. If you have a 30.06 with a 1/10 twist barrel, it has the ability to send the high BC heavyweight pills downrange at near magnum velocities when loaded with RL17 powder. I load a 208 AMAX over 57 grains of RL17 for velocities of 2766fps. That will provide more than enough capability to get you to 1200 yards and kill an animal the size of a white tail deer. For most factory ammo, I'd consider the 30.06 a gun for inside 600 yards.

I get similar results but on the opposite spectrum. My POI shifts about an inch for the last shot in every magazine that locks the bolt open. The change in the recoil impulse does enough to impart the change in POI.

Due to the relatively short overall bullet length and the tangent ogive design, the 190 smashkings usually stabilize just fine in the slower twist 11.25 and 12 twist barrels. The 185 Berger Juggernauts stabilize in my OBR's 11.25 twist but the heavier VLD's do not.

Its an NXS. An NSX is made by Acura. They are also turrets......not turrents. As for a load, try the 190SMK over 48 - 49 grains of RL17. Same velocity as the 175SMK. That equates to alot of performance when you give up nothing to velocity in a heavier, higher BC bullet. 48.5gr. shoots 5 shots repeatably in to .5" at 100yds. from my 18" LaRue OBR at 2555fps

Having read that a while back and re-reading it again, it does not carry much weight with me as it is still very subjective in view. Objective lab testing is where it is at using collimators, resolution testing equipment, light transmission testing equipment, and allowing for true durability testing. There are rather objective tests that can be done in the field to test for the above; of which none were performed. His terminology continuously confused me. He referenced Contrast as being completely different from Resolution which led me to believe he truly does not know what he is looking at. Resolution and Contrast go hand in hand. One cannot be identified without the other. What were the resolution numbers? He referenced Resolution, but provided no data to support it. What could they resolve? Like I said.....totally subjective.

no its not. I can surely promise you that it was. That is how I got the one I have.

QD is kind of a relative term. I think tool-less mounts are more of what people are seeking. I use Nightforce Rings and UniMounts on all of my rifles and they detach quickly from all of my rifles with a 1/2" socket wrench and they repeat to within .1 MOA if they are torqued to the same spec every time. I personally like not having flippy levers on my rifles. I like to keep them as snag free as I can. I keep a calibrated Sekonk 68in. pound T-Handle torque driver with me if I ever do need to remove my scope in the mount. I am then assured that it is returned to the same torque spec every time. I have never been more than 1/10 MOA off of my POI from my POA and I'm not sure it was a result of the mount or not it was so close. I do alot of scope testing on a McMillan TAC 50 rifle. I usually shoot 25-50 rounds and then remove the scope and mount it on a very accurate rifle in order to test tracking and dial accuracy. I've removed the same scope up to 20 times from the 50 and reinstalled it on a 338 AI AX and have never seen a POI shift assuming I torqued it back the same with the calibrated Torque wrench.

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The Kahles is not made by Swarovski. Its still made by Kahles. Swarovski just owns them and they share technology and design ideas. Kahles is truly the oldest rifle optics manufacturer if I am not mistaken that is still in business. The Swarovski is not garbage. Swarovski has a lane in the birding and PH market. They were however one of the first to make a 1-6 and to truly make a family of 6x zoom ratios which at the time was a huge innovation. I do credit them with that Benchmark. Their color rendition is some of the best on the planet. If you look at optics as a three sided triangle, you have contrast /resolution, color rendition, and light transmission being your key aspects of optical design. Contrast and resolution have to be grouped as the same becasue they are equally dependent for each to function as you cannot have resolution without contrast nor can you have contrast without resolution. While all are equally important, they just cannot be equal because the categories edge each other out and only one will reign supreme in a specific optic design. Color rendition is where Swarovski shines with light transmission being second and resolution/contrast being third. Other optics are in different orders based on their intended design and the direction that the optical prescription was meant to favor. In today's world, clear optics is not a true measure of their capabilities. There are very objective field tests that can be done to compare and measure individual properties of rifle optics. And then there is the world of the mechanical design which is a whole other beast unto itself. Things called reticle tilt, reticle jump, between power deviation, tracking accuracy, tracking repeatability, parallax errors, thermal stability, ability to maintain zero and several other factors all play in to the mechanical design. Here is an interesting tidbit - Daniel Horner won the Blue Ridge Mountain 3 Gun yesterday. As he perused the prize table, he passed up the Swarovski Z6 and took the Kahles k16i after being impressed with the scopes on display at the match as Kahles was there as a sponsor and had a vendor table setup. Looks like they are setting their sights on 3 Gun as a target market.