Steve RA Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 To attempt to be serious, not sure if possible in this thread, I'd think listing a COL is of little use as each gun, barrel is going to vary. I personally think a "plunk" test is the best way to establish a length for that individuals particular barrel. After that is established, check to see that the load will function in the magazines and load into the chamber properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rod Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Next thread:the pros and cons of fire lapping a new bore... Or perhaps some instruction on lubing. I'm SO tired of getting my case stuck and almost breaking off my pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 There is the spray on method and the rub on method, think I'd rather stick to the rub on method !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) To attempt to be serious, not sure if possible in this thread, I'd think listing a COL is of little use as each gun, barrel is going to vary.I personally think a "plunk" test is the best way to establish a length for that individuals particular barrel.  The "plunk" test would only tell you if it were too long. With some barrels the COL would be too long to fit in the mag before you would get a failed plunk. The main reason COL is important is that seating depth can have drastic effects on pressure. Take a long loaded major 9 load and seat short and you are likely to have problems. Edited November 22, 2012 by jmorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 "I personally think a "plunk" test is the best way to establish a length for that individuals particular barrel. After that is established, check to see that the load will function in the magazines and load into the chamber properly." More fun when you quote the entire statement ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The point was function is not part of load data. For example 3.1 of VVN310 with a Berrys 147 @ 1.160", is one of the best minor 9 loads one can shoot but while very soft shooting it is quite high in pressure. Seat the bullet another .020" and all bets are off. If you use someone's load data you should also use all of it. Using the above load again, a jacketed bullet in place of the plated will rase pressures on a load that is already on the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 The point was function is not part of load data. Exactly. the biggest thing we see here is that folks are loading for guns of vastly different designs. For (general) example: STI = long chambered vs. Glock = short chambered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Yes, I agree that functionality isn't part of load data, but, if it won't fit in gun/magazine then any load date is rather meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Very true but if I didn't post an OAL of 1.160" for the above, some unsuspecting fellow might load it to 1.060" and create a dangerous round. That would make that load data worse than useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermobollocks Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Next thread:the pros and cons of fire lapping a new bore... Or perhaps some instruction on lubing. I'm SO tired of getting my case stuck and almost breaking off my pin. Carbide lets you jam it in dry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 When you look up load data on the Hodgdon website, (which I use, and find very helpful), it gives you the bullet type and actual diameter, COL, powder type and charge weight, fps, and pressures I know I'm missing something, minimum and maximum loads for that powder and that would seem to be enough to get someone safely in the ballpark for their gun. You have your gun and mags as a guide to your dimensions and where the load needs to be for you, so I'm happy with that amount of data. I think from there you can get to where you want safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Very true but if I didn't post an OAL of 1.160" for the above, some unsuspecting fellow might load it to 1.060" and create a dangerous round. That would make that load data worse than useless. Very true. My first year I got a load from a well known GM. He neglected to tell me it was long loaded and I didn't know competition reloading well enough to ask. I assembled some rounds at SAAMI spec OAL and promptly blew up a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 Very true but if I didn't post an OAL of 1.160" for the above, some unsuspecting fellow might load it to 1.060" and create a dangerous round. That would make that load data worse than useless. Very true. My first year I got a load from a well known GM. He neglected to tell me it was long loaded and I didn't know competition reloading well enough to ask. I assembled some rounds at SAAMI spec OAL and promptly blew up a gun. the very reason(ing) for me starting this thread in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Bird Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 STOP ALREADY You guys are were sick. You must consult a Doctor soon and get something done about your train of thought. Now boobs ! Now we are talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenmorty Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 This thread has made me laugh significantly harder than it should have. Solid. Gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsessiveshooter Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Very true.My first year I got a load from a well known GM. He neglected to tell me it was long loaded and I didn't know competition reloading well enough to ask. I assembled some rounds at SAAMI spec OAL and promptly blew up a gun.You took a load from a well known GM? Sounds like something that would happen on team glock. The kaboom part, I mean. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeter44 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 12/9/2012 at 10:08 PM, kevin c said: Very true. My first year I got a load from a well known GM. He neglected to tell me it was long loaded and I didn't know competition reloading well enough to ask. I assembled some rounds at SAAMI spec OAL and promptly blew up a gun. Did you end up with any injuries?? That is scary as all hell!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Tex Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 4/3/2012 at 11:17 AM, WSMBUCK said: And just think of what the Outcome is after all those "FTE" Too many kids can lead from FTE BTW I have 6! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Tex Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 9/24/2012 at 4:53 PM, kevin c said: Next thread: the pros and cons of fire lapping a new bore... Does that catch the rug on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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