9x45 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Well, everyone knows that IMT, Freedom Munition (FM) and AmmoLoad all have a step, but this stuff is ridiculous. Weights in at 77 grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Well, everyone knows that IMT, Freedom Munition (FM) and AmmoLoad all have a step, but this stuff is ridiculous. Weights in at 77 grains. Check it with a magnet. I found some (same headstamp) that looked nickel plated, but is steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) I found 7 copper washed steel cases during my last cleaning(and a bunch of stepped). Good thing is they turn pinkish when wet tumbled. Edited June 4, 2017 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) just checked, not magnetic. doesn't matter to me, I'm not going to use the shiette anyway. Just posted so everyone else would know. Edited June 4, 2017 by 9x45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Case volume is reduced quite substantially so it must be loaded with real slow powder or only light pinker style loads. On the plus side... The chance of a case rupture is pretty remote.... no more Glocked brass and no bullet setback issues. It belongs in the scrap metal bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Except for the fact that the other stepped brasses have shown that the cases have a tendency to separate at the step, it would be interesting to develop light loads with Universal. I bet the powder necessary to make minor with a 124gr bullet would be reduced a good bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_b Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 That stuff is so frustrating. Bought a thousand 9mm locally and almost 200 were stepped like that. I check every single case now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadpilot Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I'm pretty sure you can't reload these. I tried resizing one and it was like hitting a berdan primed case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) Lead, yup. My buddy bumped into these 3 cases on his 1050, and had to stop. You have to ask why these start up companies don't use traditional brass like the 100 year old companies such as Winchester and Federal... Since I load on a SD and 550, I look at every piece of brass and don't use weird unknown head stamps. Just not worth even a single malfunction even at a local level match. Personally I think Speer and CCI Blazer are even better than StarLine. Edited June 5, 2017 by 9x45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankge Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I say boycott those companies... most get into reloading after a while and its like pooping where you eat. Call it kase kharma. I'm reloading major 9 know if its just plain hazardous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldor Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 The IMI cases Ill shoot. The step is pretty small, and Im not approaching anything that resembles a major load. However, that Maxxtech stuff, I just throw it in the recycle bin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfmetalfab Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I see it as extra weight for my scrap bucket... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Yeah, this stuff seems to take the "stepped" case to a whole new level but using brass with even a small step could be trouble due to the reduced case volume. I would avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazr111 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 The factory Maxxtech ammo doesnt even come close to making power factor either. Through a glock 17, it was around 110 to 115 pf. This stuff doesn't belong anywhere near a uspsa range...Sent from my LGLS990 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybayonet Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I use most any brass case, but stepped brass gets tossed. Not worth the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickT Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I've got to start inspecting any found or once-fired brass. I've already been running a magnet over cases; found an S&B and FN brass plated cases just two days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylenol9999 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I don't inspect for stepped brass, it's pretty easy for me to detect it as I am loading when I hit one of these. It's like hitting a wall when trying to resize. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfmetalfab Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 The maxxtech isn't as bad seeing that it will stop the loader, IMO this crap is worse, seems to like to separate at the ledge IMT and FM stamped crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I've had that brass, the FM headstamp, separate on me and leave a ring of brass in the chamber of my 9mm AR15. That's a real stage killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1_Demon Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 What is the point of stepping the brass like that? What does it prove in the manufacturing process? So far I've only started reloading .40, but I also have 9mm at home and figure I will eventually reload for that too, so it never hurts to check everything and this is the first time I have ever seen cases like this. Frickin' weird as heck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 To prevent bullet setback.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ryder Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Another reason I separate all my brass by head stamp!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1_Demon Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 13 hours ago, 9x45 said: To prevent bullet setback.... Ahhhh ok, makes sense. Didn't think of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkreutz Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 16 hours ago, R1_Demon said: Ahhhh ok, makes sense. Didn't think of that. If the step is to control bullet setback, it would be a very compressed load, take a look at a cutaway with a 124 seated to the step, it would look pretty funny and probably not feed very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Save it, along with fired primers and other "throw away" brass and sell it. It all brings the same price as "scrap brass". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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