4n2t0 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) There's a sale on both these powders and I want to buy one or the other, possibly both. I only load 147gr CamPro's (Full copper plated, 0.008 inch thick). I currently use Titegroup to load minor for all my handguns (S&W M&P9 2.0, Glock 17, Glock 34, and Ruger 9E). 1) Does WSF have noticeably more felt recoil than Titegroup? I know it's only minor but will I feel a difference? 2) How dirty are WSF and WST at these levels? 3) Generally how are the SD's and ES's? Does one perform better than the other with 147gr? P.S. I've searched the $hit out of these powders and my head's spinning, lol. At this point I'm just looking for a little guidance before potentially buying 16 lbs of each. Edited May 14, 2017 by 4n2t0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Rather than buying 16 pounds try one pound of each and do some testing yourself. Honestly not much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 WST works great in 9 minor loads from 124 to 147gr, clean, easy push in the hand ext. Problem is !!!!! I've used a lot of WSF in 9mm minor with good results also I believe WST is a better option of the two for our type of shooting It's versatile, in the 9 for minor , the 40 for both minor and major, and the 45 I've heard people complain about temperature sensitivity , though I've never had a problem with it at the chrono station from 35 to 95 degrees. I load it to 132 PF for minor and 172 for major. SD and ES are good in my guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 7 hours ago, Alaskapopo said: Rather than buying 16 pounds try one pound of each and do some testing yourself. Honestly not much difference. That would be the smart thing to do but at 40% off I'm tempted to buy a larger quantity on advice alone. If I were to buy 1 lb of each and test the sale would be over by the time I'm ready with my results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, jcc7x7 said: WST works great in 9 minor loads from 124 to 147gr, clean, easy push in the hand ext. Problem is !!!!! I've used a lot of WSF in 9mm minor with good results also I believe WST is a better option of the two for our type of shooting It's versatile, in the 9 for minor , the 40 for both minor and major, and the 45 I've heard people complain about temperature sensitivity , though I've never had a problem with it at the chrono station from 35 to 95 degrees. I load it to 132 PF for minor and 172 for major. SD and ES are good in my guns I've read that WST gets funky at the top end when pushing a FMJ projectile, I guess that's not the case. Thanks. Edited May 13, 2017 by 4n2t0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Ammo Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I've used WST for the past 6 years and love the load for 9mm. Have not had any problem meeting PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackCage Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Where you finding the sale if you don't mind me asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, TrackCage said: Where you finding the sale if you don't mind me asking? Canadian sale, so regular American pricing, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
practical_man Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I use 5.4 grains of WSF under a 115 grain XTP to get superb 50 yard accuracy. It doesn't quite make major but it is a stiff minor load. For 9mm I like WSF much better than WST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 I went with WST because it's the faster powder, so theoretically it should shoot softer than WSF. Any starting load suggestions for a FMJ like, CamPro's are thick plated, 147gr projectile? Most of my barrels are 4.25"-4.5". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 3.6gr it is, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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