triplesinglestack Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I looked over the rules and don't see anything regarding iron sights necessary, but my local club told me I have to have iron sights mounted to be legal? Any truth in this? Thanks Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Nope. There is a rule that says you must have an optic. Perhaps they confused themselves with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 2 hours ago, triplesinglestack said: I looked over the rules and don't see anything regarding iron sights necessary, but my local club told me I have to have iron sights mounted to be legal? Any truth in this? Thanks Jason false! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraj Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I don't think there is a division where iron sights are required? Recommend defiantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplesinglestack Posted May 6, 2017 Author Share Posted May 6, 2017 Thanks. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) On 5/4/2017 at 4:45 PM, triplesinglestack said: I looked over the rules and don't see anything regarding iron sights necessary, but my local club told me I have to have iron sights mounted to be legal? Any truth in this? Thanks Jason Simply ask them to show you their statement in the rules. A little knowledge is often a dangerous thing. Edited May 6, 2017 by Gary Stevens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Who told you that, goodness..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 https://uspsa.org/document_library/2017/APPENDIX D7_DNROI_2117.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp88 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 What is the benefit to having iron sights along with a dot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 imho there is zero benefit. i've shot CO in three level 2 matches and 2 CO nationals and a good handful of locals. not once did i ever say to myself, "man i wish i had iron sights on this gun" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyman1876 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 What is the benefit to having iron sights along with a dot?I use them just because I like to reference them when shooting 1 handed. My presentation isn't the best 1 handed so they help me find the dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blschultz Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 On 5/31/2017 at 5:54 AM, tyman1876 said: I use them just because I like to reference them when shooting 1 handed. My presentation isn't the best 1 handed so they help me find the dot. +1... I only have a front fiber as a quick "reference" for the SHO and WHO as I'm not as strong with my CO gun yet as I am with my Production gun. I'll be making a mid season switch soon to CO so my dry-fire schedule will probably eliminate the need for it as I become more proficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyman1876 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 +1... I only have a front fiber as a quick "reference" for the SHO and WHO as I'm not as strong with my CO gun yet as I am with my Production gun. I'll be making a mid season switch soon to CO so my dry-fire schedule will probably eliminate the need for it as I become more proficient.I seem to unintentionally leave that out of my dry fire which has hurt me on a few classifiers. Find the dot is a whole new game WHO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blschultz Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 minute ago, tyman1876 said: I seem to unintentionally leave that out of my dry fire which has hurt me on a few classifiers. Find the dot is a whole new game WHO! Yes it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammowaster Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Figure I would jump in here rather than start a new thread. I am confused as to whether it is legal to relocate the rear sight in front of the optic. Many of the companies installing optics offer this as a service and I can't tell if it is legal or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Interesting question; I think it would be a good idea to contact DNROI and get a formal response before getting anything milled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammowaster Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Damn it man you're supposed to know this stuff I guess I will put one together if nobody else knows the answer soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammowaster Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 So this is what happens when you lose your mind. I just searched my email and realized I had already asked this question last year. Troy said It was legal to do so. Nothing to see here. Move along, sorry for the clutter Yes, that's allowed.Troy On 3/7/2016 10:13 PM, Ammowaster wrote: My question involves relocating the rear sight on a pistol used for carry optics. Several companies offer the choice of placing the red dot on the very rear of the slide and relocating the rear sight to right in front of the optic. Would that be allowed? I saw mention of cosmetic cuts being allowed as long as they did not go all the way through the slide and was wondering if that would cover a new sight dovetail and relocation of the rear sight. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I was going to suggest that it should be covered under App D4, 21.2b: 21.2b Milling of slide — only as required to insert sights Remains in effect – a slide may be modified specifically for the purpose of installing sights, and for no other purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammowaster Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 That's probably what covers it. I must have missed that when reading through them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCSBarney Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Have read the rules as found but wanted to make sure I have this correct. "..adding or removing finger grooves, or adding stippling, grip tape, or checkering are specifically allowed". So I can have the finger bumps on my Gen 3 or 4 removed AND have the slide milled for a Delta Point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcs352 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Yes that is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 17 hours ago, USCSBarney said: Have read the rules as found but wanted to make sure I have this correct. "..adding or removing finger grooves, or adding stippling, grip tape, or checkering are specifically allowed". So I can have the finger bumps on my Gen 3 or 4 removed AND have the slide milled for a Delta Point? Just understand that it won't be legal to switch back to Production with that particular gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banacek Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 On 5/18/2017 at 6:19 AM, rowdyb said: imho there is zero benefit. i've shot CO in three level 2 matches and 2 CO nationals and a good handful of locals. not once did i ever say to myself, "man i wish i had iron sights on this gun" Question for you Rowdyb. What gun are you shooting in CO and what internal trigger mods have you made. I have a Glock 34 and since the Zev or other speed triggers are not legal, I want to confirm that I am interpreting the rules and I can change springs and the connector to reduce trigger pull and make a smoother trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Any trigger work that is legal for production is gtg for CO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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