waktasz Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Is it ONLY happening in double action? Then the hammer is falling too early in the DA process and it might be new Bolo time. Swap the stop disco back in and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 15 hours ago, waktasz said: Is it ONLY happening in double action? Then the hammer is falling too early in the DA process and it might be new Bolo time. Swap the stop disco back in and see what happens I was thinking of a component problem. My thought was trigger bar? I tried a disco swap and did pencil test only, will try live fire. Pencil test doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 The first tip shows how to determine da hammer distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 hours ago, zombywoof said: I was thinking of a component problem. My thought was trigger bar? I tried a disco swap and did pencil test only, will try live fire. Pencil test doesn't count. Could also be that if the part that engages the trigger bar wing is out of spec or worn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 On 4/13/2017 at 5:44 PM, zombywoof said: I'm having problems light off Winchester primers in double action. Primers seated tight on clean pockets, Good polish job, Titan, Bolo, one piece sear, extended FPB, PDO FP spring, heavy FP, PD 15.5 hammer spring, Xtreme trigger. I'm getting 30-40% non fire on first pull, fires on second pull. This usually means primers not seated. I have them crushed and then check them with a hand primer. I've removed the FPB and get the same results. I kep going up in hammer spring strength and get the same results. Problem #2, might be related I'm getting firing pin drag marks on the primer. I've tried all combinations of original FP, heavy FP with PDO spring, stock spring and Xtreme light spring. I can't figure it out. Also have an extra power extractor spring. As stated before whats the hammer travel distance between when the BOLO is installed and the factory interrupter in DA? Do you still get light strikes with the factory interrupter installed and in its current state? Problem #2 is a dwell timing issue with your gun. The barrel is unlocking and moving before the firing pin is retracted back through the breach hole. This normally isnt a cause for concern as several factory model guns on the market do this in their factory form. This does however become an issue if its removing material from the primer and dragging it back through the breach hole or possible bend the FP if the barrel is unlocking really soon on the FP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) This is with the BOLO Edited April 27, 2017 by zombywoof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) If that's the line for the back edge of the hammer , it's falling off the trigger bar too soon. Edited April 27, 2017 by johnbu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 15 hours ago, zombywoof said: This is with the BOLO Would also like to see a line for the SA hammer position and 1/2 cock, those are nice reference points to have..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) I'll get the stock interrupter in in the next couple of days Edited April 27, 2017 by zombywoof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Please take out the trigger bar and get a close up picture of the spot that the wing hits. It should not be rounded as shown in the picture of a bad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 (It should look like the left side of John's picture, not the right side.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 The Stock interrupter pulled th DA much further. Is the BOLO supposed to pull as far? If so looks like the BOLO is the problem. I also see a mark on the frame. Looks like the BOLO is hitting the frame. Is this normal? Trigger bar looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Your frame is a bit "out of whack" on a dimension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) I'm having issues with my DA as well. Im about 70% light off. PD firing pin, 15.5 lb hammer spring, light FP spring, titan, xtreme sear. I noticed that my titan Has a pretty big dimple. Can anyone check their titan and compare? Edited May 3, 2017 by tt350z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 Mine does to. Get some graph paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Mine after whi knows how many DA firings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polymer Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Should that area on the frame get polished along with everything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 On the sides of the hammer where it pivots in the frame? Definitely doesn't hurt anything to smooth that out. I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polymer Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 31 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: On the sides of the hammer where it pivots in the frame? Definitely doesn't hurt anything to smooth that out. I did. I was referring to the pic where the nose of bolo looks like it rubs the frame. This is the first time I've seen anyone discuss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) Oh! I mentioned polishing that spot on your frame in my Tanfoglio Tuning videos because my gun showed contact there. But I can say with certainty that taking the gun apart specifically to polish the tip of the disconnector and that spot on the frame had absolutely no affect on my trigger pull. I tested it out of curiosity. Wait until you have the gun apart for other reasons. Edited May 3, 2017 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeOfToren Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 One of my S2s with BOLO has premature DA hammer release that I can feel easily even in dry-fire, and it happens whenever I pull the trigger at certain angle, e.g. not straight back but a bit (or a lot) to the left. Even with the DA hammer premature release, however, I still could light off WSP 100% times. This feature has enabled me to train pulling trigger straight back. I like it. My other S2 does with BOLO does not have this problem. I suspect it has more to do with the trigger bar and frame than to BOLO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Loose sear cage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalShooter69 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Polymer said: I was referring to the pic where the nose of bolo looks like it rubs the frame. This is the first time I've seen anyone discuss it. 1 hour ago, JusticeOfToren said: One of my S2s with BOLO has premature DA hammer release that I can feel easily even in dry-fire, and it happens whenever I pull the trigger at certain angle, e.g. not straight back but a bit (or a lot) to the left. Even with the DA hammer premature release, however, I still could light off WSP 100% times. This feature has enabled me to train pulling trigger straight back. I like it. My other S2 does with BOLO does not have this problem. I suspect it has more to do with the trigger bar and frame than to BOLO. Both of you are correct, although the nose of the bolo rubbing is more of a difference in frame tollerance, than it is parts. Just the same as how some hammer spring pockets are shallower than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 On 5/3/2017 at 6:19 AM, johnbu said: Mine after whi knows how many DA firings. Thats seems about the same as the Delta on my Limited Custom Xtreme (which fires 100%). Seems like my Titan has soft steel. Mine probably has 500 live rounds through it, if that and has a noticeable raised area arounf the dimple from the displaced steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted May 6, 2017 Author Share Posted May 6, 2017 7 hours ago, tt350z said: seems like my Titan has soft steel. Mine probably has 500 live rounds through it, if that and has a noticeable raised area around the dimple from the displaced steel. Mine too. I had to stone the raised portion of the crater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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