90lxracer Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 So.. it's pretty much everything.. lol I have a rifle that I can use.. and am piecing together parts for another. As far as comp.brakes go, i have one of those M4-72's and the concussion on that joker does take some getting used to. I was wondering what else might be out there that's effective, BUT doesn't leave you huffing gunpowder as much? Trigger: what's the benefit of the flat? OR single over 2 stage? I have a geissele 2 stage national match in my gun now.. but for the new one? I was think about the geissele 3g, but I'm seeing the hyperfire 24c, and also the ar gold.. has anyone shot all three? Which do you like, and why? Recoil: hydraulic over say the JP SCS? Why or why not?? for the new gun, I've got a luth AR deal.. if that would make a difference.. Gas blocks.. What adjustables are out there that offer great performance for value? in Ti... are thos SL7's worth the cash?? I'm going to be running a stretch 16 barrel, and a faxon lmos bcg for this build. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinWolv Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Ditch the 72. Go with a Titan or Miculek or something else, the 72 is too much gas in the face to deal with.The Sentry is a very good block Just turn the screw in and out after a range trip to keep the carbon from locking up the screw Go with AR Gold. Great, short reset. Better break for long range than the S3G. S3G goid for bay only matches, but not that good for long range or small offhand targets. I haven't used the 24c, only played with it years ago. I liked the short reset and 2011 pistol-like feel of the AR Gold better. YMMV, try to find local people to try theirs.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toeheadAR Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I have a VG6 muzzle break which is light and shoots flat. I have the Tapcom ultralight buffer kit which I've tuned to work with my adjustable gas block. It helps reduce recoil, it's not pricey, and it's lighter than typical buffer setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigereye Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Sentry gas block, lmos bcg, rise armament md, geiselle ssa, jp polished spring with gutted buffer, and stretch barrel. I'm sure ssa is not the fastest trigger but I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimator Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 My new rifle has the following M4-72. I thought it was a bit much at first. I'm used to it now. Triggertech flat adjustable. I also own a SSA-E, G2S, Larue MBT & a POF flat single stage. I like them all but prefer the TT on my 3 gun rifle. Taccom lightweight buffer system with a LW AIM BCG & a RCA adjustable gas key. So far I really like this combo and it has been flawless. My barrel Is a Larue PredatAr. Just my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benchmstr Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 depends. is this just going to be a 3gun rifle, and serve only that purpose? the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRick Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) I'm using a DTF Industries brake, Odin works adjustable gas block and all weights removed from buffer with a regulas BCG . 16" barrel with mid length gas system. No muzzle raise what's so ever. Want to upgrade the trigger though. Looking at a 24C or a Geissele SSA-E. Edited April 14, 2017 by MrRick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90lxracer Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 On 4/10/2017 at 10:01 PM, AustinWolv said: Ditch the 72. Go with a Titan or Miculek or something else, the 72 is too much gas in the face to deal with. The Sentry is a very good block Just turn the screw in and out after a range trip to keep the carbon from locking up the screw Go with AR Gold. Great, short reset. Better break for long range than the S3G. S3G goid for bay only matches, but not that good for long range or small offhand targets. I haven't used the 24c, only played with it years ago. I liked the short reset and 2011 pistol-like feel of the AR Gold better. YMMV, try to find local people to try theirs. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Seems like for the $$$ the Miculek is hands down the best value.. is it lighter than the titan? I do want to try a few triggers.. I think I would be a fan of the 1911 style pieces.. I do have a 2 stage national match in the gun I have now.. but not really sure it's "one" so to speak.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90lxracer Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 15 hours ago, benchmstr said: depends. is this just going to be a 3gun rifle, and serve only that purpose? the bench Yes.. this is a strictly 3 gun build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinWolv Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 4 hours ago, 90lxracer said: Seems like for the $$$ the Miculek is hands down the best value.. is it lighter than the titan? I do want to try a few triggers.. I think I would be a fan of the 1911 style pieces.. I do have a 2 stage national match in the gun I have now.. but not really sure it's "one" so to speak.. Yes, the Miculek performs great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondog Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I have the miculek on my pof rifle. Runs very well but the guy next to me at the range the other day didn't like it so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou13 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 i have yet to see a great performing brake that doesn't piss off the neighbors, and blow your own hair back..... tac com buffer system is ultimately the lowest reciprocating mass... i have mine paired with rubber city gas key..... why the luth stock? .... 2 pounds (ish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 The Miculek is not going to be more effective than your M4-72, and it will be almost as blasty. The Titan is also harsh. The Seekins ATC is the best I've found for effectiveness without the concussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinWolv Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TonytheTiger said: The Miculek is not going to be more effective than your M4-72, and it will be almost as blasty. The Titan is also harsh. The Seekins ATC is the best I've found for effectiveness without the concussion. Miculek won't suffocate him with gas, per his original question. Titan and Miculek (and pretty much all brakes) are fine behind the gun, just make sure your ear pro is good. While both of those are concussive for sure, they throw it to the sides/angled, such that the shooter isn't beat down. With the 72, some of that seems to come straight back along with the gas......I was standing directly close behind my friend shooting one and both of us were catching it. I'd take a Titan or Miculek any day over the 72. ROs and other people won't like the Titan, JP, Miculek, *and* a bunch of others, but nature of the beast. What matters is behind the gun..... Seekins makes great products. Edited April 14, 2017 by AustinWolv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90lxracer Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 hour ago, biglou13 said: i have yet to see a great performing brake that doesn't piss off the neighbors, and blow your own hair back..... tac com buffer system is ultimately the lowest reciprocating mass... i have mine paired with rubber city gas key..... why the luth stock? .... 2 pounds (ish) Not sure if you were asking me here?? But why I have it, I'm a pretty tall guy (6'4") so my thinking was to be able to get the length of pull, adjusted more closely using one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou13 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) The reason I question is that most ( the few I know) including me went with lighter weight stocks ( and build in general) for for a 3G style rifle. Less mass swinging and stopping.... i I like the luth butt stock but not for 3G build,.. IMHO im also seing a trend towards raised dots for a more head upright shooting position .....changing the check weld ..... im tall ish not 6 4. and am running a fixed Fixed rifle length stock.... Every body and shooting styles are different... Edited April 14, 2017 by biglou13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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