Gooldylocks Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Go Everglades. When you order in case quantity they are basically the same price as PD, but a better profile for feeding. They are so rounded they are nearly a full RN profile, so they will feed better at a wider range of lengths. They are out of stock right now, but here is the link: http://www.evergladesammo.com/bullets/handgun-bullets/9mm-124gr-jhp-rn-v2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 19 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Didn't see that on the website? Have to phone to get the disc't? Yep. Just give the office a call and they can get you fixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gooldylocks said: Go Everglades. When you order in case quantity they are basically the same price as PD, but a better profile for feeding. They are so rounded they are nearly a full RN profile, so they will feed better at a wider range of lengths. They are out of stock right now, but here is the link: http://www.evergladesammo.com/bullets/handgun-bullets/9mm-124gr-jhp-rn-v2.html Those look pretty good. I may have to give them a try and see how accuracy compares to the PD 115's I've been using... ETA-Although at 20k, PD 115's are $85 cheaper than the Everglades Version 2 115gr. Edited April 11, 2017 by d_striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Those look pretty good. I may have to give them a try and see how accuracy compares to the PD 115's I've been using... ETA-Although at 20k, PD 115's are $85 cheaper than the Everglades Version 2 115gr.Email for a quote on big bulk orders. Accuracy wise, in my gun they shoot very similarly to the PDs. They were slightly more accurate in my gun on the one single day that I tested them back-to-back. Without much more thorough testing, I wouldn't call either of them more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 The blue bulletsSent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I really like the quality and consistency of precision delta 124 grain jhp. If you buy in bulk the price is pretty good also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Who's RMR? Website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOA1911 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I am using the RMR 124 Gr, JHP too. Great bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOA1911 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Rocky Mountain Reloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 RMR seems (according to their website) to be quite a bit more expensive than PD or even MG ... What do you like about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhollis51 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I've shot PD's 124hp for several years in my production rig. They are very accurate and a great price. Great customer service as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 11:27 AM, 57K said: The bullets are consistent and accurate for $99/1000. Then there are quantity discounts That's a lot more than $87/1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhollis51 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Jack, that was just the 1000 quantity price. At 3000, price/1000 is $88.67 and this bullet is constructed heavy enough that it can also be used in defense loads if needed. + FREE SHIPPING currently.The precision deltas are pretty good SD Bullets as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 2 hours ago, dhollis51 said: The precision deltas are pretty good. SD Bullets as well. Never heard of SD - they make 124 gr JHP's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The precision deltas are pretty good SD Bullets as well. I was wondering if there was any data on the PD bullets and expansion for SD? I have searched the web but haven't found much info. I guess I could just call them and ask? I always assumed they were NOT designed to expand. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 I've heard MG claims their bullets are NOT meant for SD and expansion - just for targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I've heard MG claims their bullets are NOT meant for SD and expansion - just for targets.I read the same about MG. Might have even been direct from MG. But like I said I couldn't find anything pro or con for PD. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 26 minutes ago, 57K said: it has a velocity threshold around 1150 FPS. The new bullet has minimum velocity recommendation of 1100 FPS where I typically load my own just above 1200 FPS. So, that's okay to load to 9mm Major velocity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, iflyskyhigh said: I was wondering if there was any data on the PD bullets and expansion for SD? I have searched the web but haven't found much info. I guess I could just call them and ask? I always assumed they were NOT designed to expand. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Precision Delta 124 jhps are not marketed as a SD bullet. However they preform quite well in ballistic testing, and I have no issues carrying them in my EDC. Expansion and penetration is very very similar to that of an XTP, up to about 1150 fps. They are not bonded, and may begin to separate above ~1200. PD 124 jhp into ballistic gelatin..... Edited April 18, 2017 by Ssanders224 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmella Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Anybody ever run 357 sig jhp? I tried a sample pack of 10 125gr jhp from montanagold one time (freebie grab at a match) so I loaded them up along with 124 jhp MG and shot them off a bag at about 40 yards back to back. The difference in accuracy between those two with the load I was trying was considerable but I don't know if it was that particular bullet that made the diff or what it was. I don't know what makes a bullet a 357 sig because Montana gold are still 355/356 diameter. The shape of them looks very similar to Everglades rounded jhp too. I'm tempted to try the Everglades jhp or a case of Montana gold 357sig 125g jhp, but I keep convincing myself to refrain from tinkering with loads and just stick to the plan of practice practice practice... the struggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 So, that's okay to load to 9mm Major velocity?I shoot the PD 124gr JHP out of a G17 Open pistol behind 6.8grs of Silhouette. Thousands and thousands of rounds. Zero problems.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2011BLDR Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) On 4/18/2017 at 5:20 PM, Shmella said: Anybody ever run 357 sig jhp? I tried a sample pack of 10 125gr jhp from montanagold one time (freebie grab at a match) so I loaded them up along with 124 jhp MG and shot them off a bag at about 40 yards back to back. The difference in accuracy between those two with the load I was trying was considerable but I don't know if it was that particular bullet that made the diff or what it was. I don't know what makes a bullet a 357 sig because Montana gold are still 355/356 diameter. The shape of them looks very similar to Everglades rounded jhp too. I'm tempted to try the Everglades jhp or a case of Montana gold 357sig 125g jhp, but I keep convincing myself to refrain from tinkering with loads and just stick to the plan of practice practice practice... the struggle Yea.. that 125GR Sig JHP is the only bullet I use for the last 5 years. I like it way better than the 124GR JHP (TC) and use it in .3SC and 9MM (PPC 160 PF). Edited April 24, 2017 by 2011BLDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 What's better about the 125 gr Sig JHP? What is the price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowrider Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 On 4/18/2017 at 7:20 PM, Shmella said: Anybody ever run 357 sig jhp? I tried a sample pack of 10 125gr jhp from montanagold one time (freebie grab at a match) so I loaded them up along with 124 jhp MG and shot them off a bag at about 40 yards back to back. The difference in accuracy between those two with the load I was trying was considerable but I don't know if it was that particular bullet that made the diff or what it was. I don't know what makes a bullet a 357 sig because Montana gold are still 355/356 diameter. The shape of them looks very similar to Everglades rounded jhp too. I'm tempted to try the Everglades jhp or a case of Montana gold 357sig 125g jhp, but I keep convincing myself to refrain from tinkering with loads and just stick to the plan of practice practice practice... the struggle I've loaded the PD 124 JHP in .357 Sig. Worked great but I don't carry with them, I have a case of Speer Gold Dot for carry. But the PD seems to be a well suited profile for .357 Sig. I prefer the PD bullets in general because the base is not exposed lead and is formed consisently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 The MG 357 sig bullets have a shorter nose to get more bullet mass out in the front, so they can be loaded shorter and with more bearing surface (helpful for bottleneck cartridges). Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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