Gman57 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) Just Started my Spring reloading for 40 cal. I bought 4000 rds of once fired mixed brass. All looked good at first glance before the reload process. Now I'm finding 5% of the brass with various cracks at 4 stage where the bullet is added. And 90% of the bad brass is Federal.... what gives. I'm using a minimum bell on the case mouth so I know this isn't the issue. This is a PIA and by that time it has a primer and powder. Anyone else have this issue? Just asking Gary Edited March 19, 2017 by Gman57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 My guess is you got brass that is NOT once fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman57 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Sure appears to me once fired, good rims and case stamps. I did run all through a Redding push through die before reloading. Would this do it? G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3324temp Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I've had the majority of a 50rd box of factory Ammo spilt the case when fired. It was old Ammo but was clean when fired. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman57 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Was it shot from a Glock ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A4ME Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Case mouth splits? In my experience that's unusual. I've had one or two do it over the years. .45 acp brass that was who knows how old and how many times reloaded. Seen .38 specials do it, too. Again, old as can be and reloaded an uncounted number of times. Something funny about having a bunch split like that. No idea what/why though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman57 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 I sent an email to the supplier to see what they have to say..... but I'm not expecting much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Show pictures.. after all it is used brass.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, EEH said: Show pictures.. Also, pictures of your belled brass. Are you lubing the cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman57 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 25 minutes ago, EEH said: Show pictures.. after all it is used brass.. Thought you would never ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman57 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Also, pictures of your belled brass. Are you lubing the cases? Take a look at the at the pics... I have reloaded over 35+ years never had an issue like this unless an occasional brass that has had the sh*t loaded out of it or over pressure. My thought was shot from a Glocks with oversized chamber. Hummmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge40 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I reload range pick up 40 brass all the time and I have only found one split case. Thats just crazy to have that many failures. I wish I had an answer for you but I have never seen or heard of anything that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 My apologies,,that's not used brass,,that's trash. I would trash it and not waste my primers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I wonder if someone soaked this brass in a very corrosive cleaning agent ... ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman57 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 53 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said: I wonder if someone soaked this brass in a very corrosive cleaning agent ... ?? I thought that to Jack. I bought this from a commercial brass reseller. But why just the Federal brass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I think someone used an ammonia based cleaner on that brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Gman57 said: But why just the Federal brass? Because FC brass has thinner case walls. At least that's the case with their 9mm so I assume it carries over to the rest of FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 9 hours ago, Yeti said: I think someone used an ammonia based cleaner on that brass. It doesn't seem like its normal wear and tear for shooting/reloading. I'd sort the federal and ask for an exchange from your supplier or just suck it up and buy from some one else next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty123 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I've been reloading for many years and only "once" did a come across a piece of brass like that. I don't think Glock barrel could have caused such a thing. Very strange indeed. If you happen to find a logical answer, please let us all know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman57 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 Well after 2 emails from Monmouth reloading .com I got nowhere.... so many words too bad too sad. Check this off my list of brass suppliers. As a business owner my job is to provide a product that make my customers happy. And if not happy make it right. This is not so with many companies. Buyer beware! Just my .02 worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wurm Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I ordered 5000 .40 from Monmouth at the end of December and didn't get to it for a few months. It looks wonderful but I got so many cracked case mouths when I actually tried reloading it that I decided I am tossing all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman57 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 Same time frame, I bought this batch late December. Any brand seam to have more failures than others? Did you contact them about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Looks like the brass is brittle. Perhaps it was processed with a chemical that negatively interacts with the specific components that Federal uses to make their 'brass'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman57 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Well after several emails from the supplier it's hopeless to get any consumer satisfaction. I was told the I need to remember that I was buying scrap materials. And this is exactly what it is, scrap. My word to anyone dealing with this company is.... good luck and buyer beware. As seen in this thread I'm not the only one with this issue. Just my .02 G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman57 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Looking for a quality vendor for once fired brass. Names please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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