BeerBaron Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 there are different shapes of JHP. hornady HAP and Zero's are like a conical JHP. some others (MG perhaps?) are more like a round nose JHP. If you have feeding issues with the conical shaped JHP's try the RN shaped ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&W686 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) I have a CK Arms Hardcore Open 9 Major and I load 115gr Montana Gold JHP's to 1.165-70 without any issues. I have also shot BBI 125gr bullets loaded to the same length without any issues also. Edited March 24, 2017 by S&W686 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feegee Dean Matlock Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 BBI is all I run on my open guns and the are great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitvpr Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 On 3/21/2017 at 10:57 PM, balmo said: I bought a CK Arms Thunder about a year ago and load to 1.160 OAL with PD JHP no problems. When new, I could only plunk at 1.145. After a few thousand rounds, I tried 1.160 and it fits the barrel. Same here, my CK Thunder is about a year and a half old. Im loading either Montana Gold or Precision Delta JHP at 1.160, very accurate, no issues. The HARD plated Extreme RN are just not accurate, it's not worth the $5~$8 savings in price per thousand. As for powders, I use SIL, AutoComp, HS-6 and 3n37 in order of preference. Haven't tried the CFE Pistol yet because I have tons of the others, and they seem to work great for me as well as other 9major guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitvpr Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I shoot range brass, but I go through it 100% to make sure it's not stepped brass, I have blown a few of those apart and it's not fun taking the ring out of the chamber. I don't check "headstamps" I just look at all my brass (inside) under a bright light and discard any of that stepped crap. I typically find 3 or 4 out of every 500 pieces. Also, I don't mark the brass, just shoot and release, I only pick up brass from practice session, typically I come back with more than I shoot...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Yes 10gr of A7 does sound a lot. I know my old gun Para 38s will not feed JHP that good as the round hits the middle of the ramp and stops, but feeds FMJ just fine. Yes I do get lead build up in the comp. My new gun all I'm planning on shooting is Precision Deltas JHP. I'm still on the fence about 9mm as all I ever shot was 38s and it's so easy to load and they shoot soft. I heard 9mm is more of a snap to it. Going to ask one of the guys this week at match if I can try his 9mm just to get a feel for it. The Everglades JHPs feed in my gun significantly better than the PDs. They are essentially a RN profile JHP.Also, they are super duper accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 39 minutes ago, Gooldylocks said: The Everglades JHPs feed in my gun significantly better than the PDs. They are essentially a RN profile JHP. Also, they are super duper accurate. Those do look nice . If they didn't cost more than pd I'd give them a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Those do look nice . If they didn't cost more than pd I'd give them a try.At case quantity they are only .00225 more expensive than PD, and .004 cheaper than MG. But a better profile than either, and in my measuring they are more consistent in weight and length than either MG or PD. JMHO ETA: to put that in perspective, the cost difference between a case of PD and EG is 9 bucks haha. 340 vs 349. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 yeah at 4k the price gap shrinks a lot. at 1 or 2k its significant. good to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 yeah at 4k the price gap shrinks a lot. at 1 or 2k its significant. good to knowYea when I first found them I cringed at how expensive they were until I looked at the case price haha. Now they are all I recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkS_A18138 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 On 3/22/2017 at 0:49 PM, RaylanGivens said: Wow! That's a lot of powder for a 9mm case... I've never loaded Accurate #7, but most of the powders I load in a 9mm case get pretty full around 8.5 grains... Is #7 extremely fine or super dense or something? A7 is Super fine and very dense powder, not my powder of choice for 9mm major but I have run it! 10.0gr is pretty common and safe load for 115gr major. My choice is HS6 or SP2 for 9 major! This was my 38 super load for years 11.8 grains of AA 7 under a 115 Zero HP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 ? Gooldylocks,,do you run 115 gr Bullets ? what powder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 ? Gooldylocks,,do you run 115 gr Bullets ? what powder 8.9 of HS6 gets me about 175ish, out of this lot. My previous lot was about 9.1, and the lot before that was like 8.4. But from about 8.4-9ish should generally get you there depending on your barrel with HS6 in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 At case quantity they are only .00225 more expensive than PD, and the same price as MG. But a better profile than either, and in my measuring they are more consistent in weight and length than either MG or PD. JMHO ETA: to put that in perspective, the cost difference between a case of PD and EG/MG is 9 bucks haha. 340 vs 349/350$420 for 3750! That's a lot more than MG. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 http://www.evergladesammo.com/bullets/handgun-bullets/9mm-124gr-jhp-bullets.htmlSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Just now, 3djedi said: http://www.evergladesammo.com/bullets/handgun-bullets/9mm-124gr-jhp-bullets.html Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Those aren't the bullets we are talking about... http://www.evergladesammo.com/bullets/handgun-bullets/new-9mm-115gr-jhp.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Those aren't the bullets we are talking about... http://www.evergladesammo.com/bullets/handgun-bullets/new-9mm-115gr-jhp.htmlOh gotcha.... but their 115's cost the same as MG's 124's.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garmil Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 3djedi said: Oh gotcha.... but their 115's cost the same as MG's 124's. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk I think you're still confused. 4000 Everglades 115 jhp $349 4000 mg 115 jhp $365 Edited March 25, 2017 by Garmil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3djedi Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I think you're still confused. 4000 Everglades 115 jhp $349 4000 mg 115 jhp $365 I am confused lolI was thinking 124g prices3750 MG's jhp $3603750 EG's jhp $422 Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 http://www.evergladesammo.com/bullets/handgun-bullets/9mm-124gr-jhp-bullets.htmlSent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using TapatalkI do believe the V2s are much cheaper, and they are the better profile as well. Out of stock right now though unfortunately. But on a slightly different note, shoot 115s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 You are confused because you are looking at the wrong bullets. You have to look at the V2 ones, they are cheaper AND the best profile available. The "old style" JHPs are listed as much more money on the website. 85 dollars more per case in 115gr, to be exact Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer-x Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Steelix, You get your new CK yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelix Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Not yet, I should have it in a week or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer-x Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Are you having it custom made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelix Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 Nope, getting it from a dealer, but they are changing the scope over to RTS2 and had to wait for my tax return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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