UFO Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 10 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Either your Vortex is a LOT brighter than my laser - or the sun was out but the targets were in the shade. If bright sunshine is shining directly onto the target, my dot fades badly, but if the targets are shaded, I can still see the dot. Not real sure what your comments imply. But I rarely turn my Vortex on because the sights are etched into the reticle making it very easy to pick up the laser. If your attempting this with a $59 laser, been there, they do not work. Take a look at Crimson Trace............ Link to comment
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I may be wrong, but I think you're talking about a red dot, not a laser. I'm trying to imply that if the sun is out, but the target is in the shade, I can pick up my laser sight .... BUT, if the sun is out and shining directly onto the target, the sun washes out the laser "dot". Link to comment
gerritm Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Can you put the laser on for certain stages where it might work and then remove it for others? Thinking of trying one, but not sure I would want it one for the whole match. Use a good QD mount that will retain zero. I am partially blind in my right eye so weak hand classifiers and hard right leans are killing me. gerritm Link to comment
bockerSV Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Most commercially available lasers are pretty darn small so, if it were me, I would just leave it and activate the laser on a stage you want it, keep it off if you don't, but you could definitely mount on a quick detach if you wanted to. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
UFO Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 On 4/23/2017 at 3:06 PM, Hi-Power Jack said: I may be wrong, but I think you're talking about a red dot, not a laser. I'm trying to imply that if the sun is out, but the target is in the shade, I can pick up my laser sight .... BUT, if the sun is out and shining directly onto the target, the sun washes out the laser "dot". Take a look at a Crimson Trace 206 laser. Visible out to 35yds on a bright day with sunlight on the target. Link to comment
trgt Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Cold days also not good for laser, some of us used for night match and we were all failing between 30-40 degrees while no issue that temp for a red dot optic. In daylight green seems better/further than red, but highly dependent on lighting conditions and distance to target how easy to see / fast to pick up. You need to practice it to use instead of weak hand mount for hard 'wrong side' leans. I'm leaving green lasers on my PCC for a bit - definitely fun/fast for close in point shoot/hosing and medium distance plate racks. Link to comment
davel280 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Plus lasers will turn the rest of the squad into cats as they watch the dot bounce around the targets. Link to comment
ChuckS Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 50 minutes ago, davel280 said: Plus lasers will turn the rest of the squad into cats as they watch the dot bounce around the targets. That means that they will be indifferent, fussy eaters and lick themselves a lot? Link to comment
gerritm Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 My son had a TLR-2 red laser/flashlight combo for his pistol for night matches. I installed it and went out late yesterday afternoon to do some chrono & testing. Full sunlight. Started to wash out at about 10 yards. Got it zeroed and am going to shoot a LVL II match Saturday with it. Supposed to be overcast with chance of rain. I am going to order A Crimson Trace 206 green laser, but it will not be here in time. I will let you all know how it works. Will only shoot it on the right hand leans and weak hand shots. Hope no one goes "cat crazy" on me. gerritm Link to comment
2011BLDR Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 On 4/25/2017 at 8:48 PM, UFO said: Take a look at a Crimson Trace 206 laser. Visible out to 35yds on a bright day with sunlight on the target. That is the one I am trying, Used it first time in a match yesterday. I think it is useful on certain targets and light levels, It is extremely small and low profile. I hit a sale price of $139 with a $50 rebate so @ $89 ea the 2 I ordered were a good deal for my 2 MPX's. Link to comment
ChuckS Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, 2011BLDR said: That is the one I am trying, Used it first time in a match yesterday. I think it is useful on certain targets and light levels, It is extremely small and low profile. I hit a sale price of $139 with a $50 rebate so @ $89 ea the 2 I ordered were a good deal for my 2 MPX's. That is the device that Foley used at Area 2... Link to comment
Flatland Shooter Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 36 minutes ago, 2011BLDR said: I hit a sale price of $139 with a $50 rebate so @ $89 ea the 2 I ordered were a good deal for my 2 MPX's. Still available? Where? Link to comment
ChuckS Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Flatland Shooter said: Still available? Where? Amazon still has them for 139 but unfortunately the company rebate ended yesterday Link to comment
2011BLDR Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, ChuckS said: Amazon still has them for 139 but unfortunately the company rebate ended yesterday Yea.. I did mine from Midway Link to comment
gerritm Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 So I tried the TLR 2 red laser in a match and no bueno. It was overcast and laser dot was way too small even up close to pick up fast enough. The 206 showed up and the green laser dot is definetly brighter and larger. See what happens next match. gerritm Link to comment
bockerSV Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Shameless plug for my employer but LaserMax has a mail in rebate going on until the end of the month, just sayin'.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
bockerSV Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Shameless plug for my employer but LaserMax has a mail in rebate going on until the end of the month, just sayin'.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
davel280 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 So, I forgot to turn my C-more off and killed the battery. Smooth move right!! Discovered this at make ready. Turned the 206 on and shot the stage with the laser, saved my bacon. I think it's staying on the Sig. Dave Link to comment
UFO Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 19 hours ago, davel280 said: So, I forgot to turn my C-more off and killed the battery. Smooth move right!! Discovered this at make ready. Turned the 206 on and shot the stage with the laser, saved my bacon. I think it's staying on the Sig. Dave Amazing how well they work! Today, at our match, they had a little side challenge going on with a clay pigeon at 25yds. Draw and 1 shot to see who could hit it, and be the fastest. The fastest pistol was 1.74 sec. I had to start with stock on belt. Put the laser on the clay, at the buzzer took off the safety and pulled the trigger... .53sec had a good view of the laser. Crimson Trace 206 FTW Link to comment
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, UFO said: clay pigeon at 25yds. fastest pistol was 1.74 sec. Bet I could Double that .... Link to comment
gerritm Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I didn't get a chance to shoot the PCC this weekend in a match, shot my open pistol instead, but zeroed the green CT 206 @ 20yards in the bright Texas sunshine and could see it with no problem. At the match had a classifier and after all shot, took the PCC out to see what the laser would do and it was very visible again in a perfect bright day. Looking forward to trying in in a match. gerritm Link to comment
CookieTheSwede Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) I have a Crimson Trace 206 Green laser that I use on my Scorpion. It is great for IDPA, especially indoors. I originally got it for those hard corners And think it's worth the money. It has also saved me on those stages where you're basically falling out of bounds in USPSA. For long shots in the sunlight it's hard to pick up but it does have its uses. I don't know if Crimson trace still has the rebate going on but you can find them for pretty good price if so. Oh, and being a spectator it's a lot of fun seeing where people are on targets when they pull the trigger. Video of it in use at a USPSA match. There is a hard corner around a barrel that I couldn't get a good cheek weld. Saved some time. Edited May 14, 2017 by CookieTheSwede Added video. Link to comment
Echd Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 A red laser is a no go in almost any daylight. Close in you can pick it out, but get more than 10 yards away and it's hard or impossible. A green laser is visible during the day but on a bright day it's still very hard to pick out past 15 yards or so. Definitely not faster than an optic... In most situations. Now, low light or no light? It's pretty cool! I love taking a green laser out on a foggy night and seeing a star wars death beam for miles. Link to comment
AZGUNNER Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I have shot some indoor matches with a laser on both pistol and rifle. With the laser on and people watching the laser but with me shooting with sights or dot on rifle they said they could not see the laser track very good on the targets. I had to slow down by many seconds to shoot with the laser. much much slower process. To me it's like watching someone shoot steel that waits for steel reaction before moving to the next target. Link to comment
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