MikieM Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I just recently got a Dillon Super 1050, and have just about got it all set up, but have a question for those who have experience with the machine. I only load 9mm ammo with no-crimped brass so Is the swagger back-up die necessary? The reason I ask is when I remove the case from the die (on the up-stroke) I get a noticeable bump. Very annoying. Thanks, Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvc4you Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Take it out, I reload 38 super comp ( no crimped primer pockets) and took it out. I ran the Dillon resizing die in the first station and EGW undersize die instead of the swagger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 3 hours ago, MikieM said: I just recently got a Dillon Super 1050, and have just about got it all set up, but have a question for those who have experience with the machine. I only load 9mm ammo with no-crimped brass so Is the swagger back-up die necessary? The reason I ask is when I remove the case from the die (on the up-stroke) I get a noticeable bump. Very annoying. Thanks, Mike. I'd leave it in if you aren't going to use that station for something else... You might get a piece of crimped brass some day and be glad you still have it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icestud Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Be careful with the 9mm brass there is NATO brass that is crimped, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregJ Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 hours ago, icestud said: Be careful with the 9mm brass there is NATO brass that is crimped, This. Unless you are going to closely scrutizine every piece of brass prior to loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harleyfan Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I have had very few problems seating primers in crimped 9mm brass.Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcracco Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The other reason to leave the swager in in place is if decapping misses a primer. Real obvious when it hits the swaging station and you are able to stop and remove. I even can feel ringers in station 3 (where face of primer rips off but wall portion remains in pocket). I run only NATO brass and have few primer issues but to me the swaging station is a crucial part of the operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 On 3/13/2017 at 1:32 PM, MikieM said: The reason I ask is when I remove the case from the die (on the up-stroke) I get a noticeable bump. Very annoying. Sounds like there is a problem with the way the press is set up? I load 9mm also (cheap range brass) and have not noticed an annoying bump. Obviously you do not have to use a swager, I like it partially because it takes a bit more crud out of the primer pockets that does not end up dropping down into your primer slide. Not a big deal, I load Federals (soft) when I can find them, not certain if that is a factor in whether or not the swager is worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I removed it. I reloaded 45, 40, 9, 38SC and 223/5.56. On the 5.56 I had the super swage. Too much of a hassle with 5.56 and I don't reload it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikieM Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 hour ago, IHAVEGAS said: Sounds like there is a problem with the way the press is set up? I load 9mm also (cheap range brass) and have not noticed an annoying bump. Obviously you do not have to use a swager, I like it partially because it takes a bit more crud out of the primer pockets that does not end up dropping down into your primer slide. Not a big deal, I load Federals (soft) when I can find them, not certain if that is a factor in whether or not the swager is worthwhile. After readjusting the hold-down (top) the bumping noise has gone away. I inspected a few primer pockets and they are clean as a whistle, and you can't really feel the new primers going in. I like it. Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) The back up rod on the 1050 is also the expander. They use a different powder funnel that just flares the case (left). the SD, 550 and 650 all use powder funnels that expand and flare (center). So if you ditch the backup rod and use the factory 1050 funnel, you won't have an expander. FWIW this is pistol only, for the most part rifle rounds have the expander built into the decapping pin. Edited March 23, 2017 by jmorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Hello: I have just used the pistol powder funnel on my 1050 to load without using the primer swagger setup. I have used the specific powder funnels without the swagger also. They load all the same. I check my brass before I load them in the hopper sorting out the ones that have the rim dented. For 9mm I use the swage station since I have loaded up a couple of 5 gallon pails of crimped brass. It takes a little extra effort on the handle pull but not bad at all. To set the swage station up i cut a piece of brass so that almost all of the upper portion is gone. That way I can set where the anvil and the swagger are touching and how hard. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashDodson Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I find the mr bullet feeder stepped funnel to be better than the dillon for both 9 and 40. Regardless of you using the bullet feeder or not. Any thump I have ever gotten from the press was the funnel sticking in the case. Especially really clean unlubed cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78Staff Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 9 hours ago, CrashDodson said: I find the mr bullet feeder stepped funnel to be better than the dillon for both 9 and 40. Regardless of you using the bullet feeder or not. Any thump I have ever gotten from the press was the funnel sticking in the case. Especially really clean unlubed cases. This is interesting as I found the Dillon better, at least in 45 - the MBF 45 thumped quite a bit, so I never even tried the 9mm... Next time I run some 9mm I will give it a try, although tbh the Dillon 9mm funnel worked fine. Of course since I have started wet tumbling which I hear can make the sticking worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Are you lubing your brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78Staff Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Yep use One-Shot on pistol brass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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