Kdenny Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Just purchased a DVC and took it to the range over the weekend. Other than a few issues with MBX magazines Saturday, all went well. Decided to shoot local steel match yesterday. All good for the first three stages then three stovepipes on stage 4. RO suggested scope mount may be interfering with ejection. On to stage 5 and the wheels came off. Gun would not cycle. Felt like slide was catching on something before returning to battery. I applied additional oil and still could not get the slide to return without a nudge. Ended my match and went home. Completely degreased and generously oiled again thinking some grime may be causing the issue - although hard to believe after just 200 +/- rounds. Slide still getting hung up and requires a nudge to seat a bullet. I inspected the slide for damage or burrs and could not find anything. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeski Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 DVC Open I take it? 38 super or 9mm? Are you using factory ammo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdenny Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 9MM. Using Atlanta Arms major load (147 gr) until I can get home and work up a load of my own with 124 gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeski Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Hmm I have the 38 Super DVC and had no issues, but I did try to run 38 Super in it first then found a little tag in the box that said it was tuned to run Supercomp. So I run that now with no issues. Nothing on the frame to hold up? Does the Gun go back into battery without a bullet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdenny Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 It will go back into battery, but no smoothly. It if definitely dragging on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Look at the ejector. They have had some issues with them bending. Happened on mine, slide would not work at all, had to force it off. Sent it back for some other warranty work and STI replaced it with a tuned one. I installed a Brazos Tuned ejector, but did not like where it threw the brass. Hit the scope mount on occasion. The one STI installed works perfect. gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler2you Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Kdenny said: It will go back into battery, but no smoothly. It if definitely dragging on something. If it's dragging without chambering a round, it sounds like it could be the Disconnector. If the Disco is binding in it's hole, it can cause the symptoms you're experiencing. Take the slide off and try pushing the Disco down with a punch. Does it move smoothly up and down? Now try it with the trigger depressed. Does it pop up smoothly after you release the trigger? If it's sticky, it may be interference in the Disco hole or improperly adjusted pre-travel causing the Disco to bind on the Sear Legs. Also need to look for any obvious interference issues such as the ejector dragging on the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsk Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 if you are having a problem with a DVC send it back right away, way too many issues with mine that I suffered through. in hind sight I would have just sent it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theWacoKid Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 You did field strip it to inspect it, right? You did not specifically say you did so we better be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdenny Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 I will check the disconnector when I get home this evening. The ejector looked good, but I have ordered a tuned ejector from Brazos. Yes, I did field strip, degreaser and applied lube (Slide Glide). Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 That sounds like an Extractor issue, like the extractor tension is too tight and the rim of the case can't get under the extractor hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jht05016 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 They have had huge issues with the fitting of barrel links. Breaking them left and right. But if it isn't fit right, before it breaks, it could cause some of those issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 mine (38 super) malf'd big time the first range/break in session, over a couple of hundred rounds. took it home, stripped and thoroughly cleaned and oiled and it's been pretty much perfect since, other than a few clearly magazine-related issues. i did immediately turn the c-more sideways as i like it low to the bore. hope you get yours fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accu9 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I had a similar issue with a DVC Open 9mm, went through all the usual suspects such as the disco binding, extractor tension etc. As it were, I found massive burrs on the frame rails, STI warrantied the issue. Pretty hard to believe that this could have passed QC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 These DVC gun issues are starting to sound like a broken record. Does DVC stand for.......... Disappointment Verified Continually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler2you Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Deficient Value Certainly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accu9 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 17 hours ago, tyler2you said: Deficient Value Certainly Very well put. I bought the gun as a back up and certainly wasn't expecting too much as I'm well aware DVC's are a mass produced factory gun (I figured I would have to tune the extractor, trigger work etc.- the usual). But, after 50 rounds and the slide completely locking up due to massive burrs on the frame rails...that is just comical. Also, STI states that they don't use MIM parts. Does STI use any MIM parts? A: In the Past STI has used high quality MIM parts. We no longer use MIM parts on our firearms, we use the highest quality machined parts available. My DVC Open's grip safety tells a different story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler2you Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Could it be a cast part? MIM parts usually (but not always) have a flat spot as well where a rod pushes the part out of the mold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I believe that pretty much all beaver tails are cast due to their complex configuration. It would cost crazy money to machine a beaver tail out of bar stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 So my friend has one: What a F%$&@&&@ing JOKE of a gun. It has been back to STI several times. My Trojan sits in the safe. I'll keep just so I can say I have a 45 1911. :-) My friend is looking for a named builder to build him a new gun but the 12 month wait is hard to swallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yardbird Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, pjb45 said: My friend is looking for a named builder to build him a new gun but the 12 month wait is hard to swallow. http://atlasgunworks.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theWacoKid Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 At this point anyone who ignores the mountains of evidence and still buys a DVC kinda gets what they deserve. The probability is just extremely high that you're going to have slight to serious issues. It blows my mind how many I've seen to be problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHA-LEE Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 What do you expect from a "Parts Bin" built gun? They look cool, but looking cool does not offset the fact that these things are manufactured in a way that allows them to simply pull parts from a bin, slap them together with minimal fitting needed, then ship them out the door. That may work for low volume use guns purchased by plinkers who really don't shoot them much. But putting those type of guns into a competition environment is going to expose every single flaw and shortcut taken. The track record of issues with these guns can't be refuted either. There IS a significant problem. I wish STI the best and hope that they resolve the issues. But damn, these DVC's are becoming a significant black eye in the competition world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 so how many have been sold now (1000s?) and we have a dozen guys on the internet having issues. granted there should be NONE with that kinda coin, but i have real live buddies that have sent CK's, Nighthawks and Wilson's back and those are even more coin. just a little tired of all the STI bashing when my stash of STI's have been pretty good to me and the vast majority i see at matches run well also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeski Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I have to agree with davsco. I have had no issues with my Limited and Open DVC. They have run for me right out of the box and the only issue I had with my open was something that I did. I ran 38 Super ammo in it when it came from the factory tuned for SuperComp. I changed ammo and it's running great. I would be curious to see what the actual % of defects is for them. If STI sells 5000 DVC Opens and they have 50 that have issues then its the same as another custom who builds 10 and has 1 come back. As we all know if one person has a good experience they will tell 1 person, but if they have a bad experience they will tell 10. No one ever calls a customer service number to tell them they make a great product. Now issues out of the box are one thing, but how many of these issues are user error. Not Cleaning, wrong ammo loads, ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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