JFoley001 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 First shooter in the squad, first stage of the year at this particular club. Ran the COF, unload show clear, slide forward hammer down, place pistol in new Ghost ultimate holster, well almost...plunk. Right in the sand. Fortunately pistol was unloaded, and I haven't a clue how its even possible for a pistol to fall forward off one of these holsters and not muzzle anyone and everything behind it. Big wake up call. Threw me off for the ret of the day and definitely left the match feeling defeated. Shit happens, learn and move on I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I have a couple friends that run that holster.. I'm a little wary of them for the reason they only hold the trigger guard. I run WSM II for the 2 points of contact for just this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z40acp Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 The Ghost works great. I do test the gun to make sure it is in before letting go. I always lock it with the lever up so you have to reach in with your thumb to unhook it between stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFoley001 Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, z40acp said: The Ghost works great. I do test the gun to make sure it is in before letting go. I always lock it with the lever up so you have to reach in with your thumb to unhook it between stages. Me too. NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missed it by that much Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Did the same thing while practicing at my range, my cmore did not fare so well on the cement floor. Needless to say I always check before letting go and lock before moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee blackman Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I think if ghost just put a small but strong magnet to help with retention, it would greatly improve the design. I really like the Ghost, but if you run a heavy metal grip with a 170mm big stick, it rolls back and the dust cover doesn't contact the holster anymore, kinda freaks me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 5 hours ago, missed it by that much said: I always check before letting go Me, too. And I don't use a ghost. I saw two fine gentlemen DQ'd the same day, in the same squad, for this problem - now I check Every Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z40acp Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 17 hours ago, lee blackman said: I think if ghost just put a small but strong magnet to help with retention, it would greatly improve the design. I really like the Ghost, but if you run a heavy metal grip with a 170mm big stick, it rolls back and the dust cover doesn't contact the holster anymore, kinda freaks me out. I think that is a pretty good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 You didn't get DQ'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFoley001 Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, aandabooks said: You didn't get DQ'd? No sir. 10.5.14 Retrieving a dropped handgun: A dropped gun must always be retrieved by a Range Officer who will ensure it is unloaded and properly secured in the competitor's holster or a suitable container. The Range Officer may, at his discretion, secure the gun himself or return it to the competitor who will secure it under supervision of the Range Officer. Dropping an unloaded handgun or causing it to fall outside of a course of fire is not an infraction; however, a competitor who retrieves a dropped handgun will receive a match disqualification. Edited March 7, 2017 by JFoley001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeweyH Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 You were still in the course of fire. 8.3.8 and 10.5.3 apply. Should have been a DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 We had a shooter on the squad at Area 5 drop his unloaded gun at ULSC and he got DQ'd. RO said the COF is not over until RO calls Range Clear. Nobody on the squad argued about it and shooter didn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Yes, it should have been a DQ. The course of fire is not over until the RO gives the command "Range is clear", as per 8.3.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 22 hours ago, JFoley001 said: First shooter in the squad, first stage of the year at this particular club. Ran the COF, unload show clear, slide forward hammer down, place pistol in new Ghost ultimate holster, well almost...plunk. Right in the sand. Fortunately pistol was unloaded, and I haven't a clue how its even possible for a pistol to fall forward off one of these holsters and not muzzle anyone and everything behind it. Big wake up call. Threw me off for the ret of the day and definitely left the match feeling defeated. Shit happens, learn and move on I guess. Had the RO called "range is clear" yet? If he did then you are good to keep shooting. If not you should have been DQ'ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFoley001 Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 Range was not cleared by RO. Should have been a DQ then. Now what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Maybe explain to the RO, when you next meet them, that it ahould have been a DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, JFoley001 said: Range was not cleared by RO. Should have been a DQ then. Now what? 13 minutes ago, JFoley001 said: Range was not cleared by RO. Should have been a DQ then. Now what? Nothing. I would take it a step further than Grumpy and maybe email the MD and let him know he has/had an RO who is unfamiliar with the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 While I was preparing for an Open Nationals one year I stuck my STI in my DAA Racemaster with a fully loaded big stick. Bent over to pick up brass and the whole shebang fell out of the holster. Of course it lands on the side mounted Cmore and cracks the housing near the lens. And of course its a few days before I was supposed to leave. Painfull lesson learned; always double check that the gun is secured in the holster by sticking it in, locking it and tugging on it. Can't blame the holster for my screwup, if the gun is properly locked by the operator you'll get a world class wedgie trying to pull that gun out of that RM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 3/7/2017 at 3:01 PM, blaster113 said: always double check that the gun is secured in the holster by sticking it in, locking it and tugging on it. if the gun is properly locked by the operator you'll get a world class wedgie trying to pull that gun out of that RM! yep i lock and then firmly tug before even thinking of letting go. every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmick Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I run the ghost holster, fortunately I haven't had this happen yet. But it does worry me between stages and when helping reset COF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFoley001 Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 On 4/20/2017 at 7:26 AM, Lilmick said: I run the ghost holster, fortunately I haven't had this happen yet. But it does worry me between stages and when helping reset COF. Easy solution. The ONLY time that pistol is not LOCKED in the holster is during make ready, and the draw. You wont be moving during either of these instances, and the pistol should be locked in at all other times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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